spekdah

can I rebuild a 13b? , I've done everything else on an FD except the block. is it really that hard?

HDP

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If you have enough money, any and all special tools and parts can be bought... the question is, are your skills and patience up to the task? You have to take your time, double-check your progress and don't rush.

Ottoman

I did..

just used the CD in a laptop.. followed it as I went along..

engine is breaking in right now..

WaLieN

I have one of those videos which tells you how to rebuild a 13B. From the looks of it, if you can pull your motor, you can rebuild a 13B.

IRPerformance

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There are a lot of things the video doesn't show. Most beginners neglect to think about seal clearancing, specing out housings, bearings, end play, etc. Most do not have the proper tools and equipment to do so. I give credit to those who try but remember there can be a steep and expensive learning curve not to mention a ton of extra labor for mistakes. If you take on this sort of project yourself take your time, do your research, and learn from other's mistakes. Just don't put too much faith in a video alone.

FDWarrior

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I was also thinking of doing my own rebuild. What dvd, book, or other source would be the best and most informative. Im not a noob to engines just rotaries, so I know the time and patience it takes to do a proper build.

Ottoman

the Bruce DVD shows how to spec and check for clearences as well..

u can buy micrometers and bore gauges off of Ebay..

Vr6Jason

Are you talking about the Bruce Turrentine dvd?
here

87 t-66

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the diy 13-b videos are great...also there was a nice write up done by kevin landers but he'd banned now

BADSVN2000

I used to sell the DIY-RE 13b dvd's and I have seen the atkins version and seeing as i no longer work for DIY I can give a non-biased opinion on both. The DIY-RE dvd's are really in depth, there a 4 dvd's in the set and cover the build from start to finish, Lance even supplies big A2 posters with all the specs, measurements and tolerences of the engine so you can use it as an easy reference.
A friend of mine that ownes a rotary shop ordered just the poster as a quick reference that he put up in his engine build room.
The Atkins video, although is also very indepth misses a fair amount of important information, I believe the diy-re series fills those gaps and covers more.

c00lduke

More info?

BADSVN2000

Go to www.diy-re.co.nz I think from memory there is a small demo on there.

c00lduke

Sorry, I meant the banning.

Ottoman

Yeah man.. that's the one..

Vr6Jason

Well the Bruce Turrentine dvd is 30$ and the DIY-Re is 140$ so I'm probably going to go with the cheaper of the two if they cover the same aspects of a 13b rebuild. Has anyone seen both of them to compare the two?

M104-AMG

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Any update ?

:-) neil

dgeesaman

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Ihor,

The stuff you mentioned is specified in the FSM. With the video, a good working knowledge of machine tools and measuring techniques (e.g. endplay, clearances, preloads, etc), and the FSM, what's left that would prevent someone from performing a proper basic rebuild?

That said, "good working knowledge of machine tools and measuring techniques" definitely has it's learning curve. I know about rebuilding transmissions, which require many of the same things, but I'm not going to assume that I'm prepared to build an engine. I think you're spot on in the fact that just because a DIY mechanic can get things apart and back together doesn't mean they did it properly. It takes experience to know when to build a tool, when to buy a tool, and when to improvise with what you have. I think that's one place where DIY'ers get in a lot of trouble.

(Of course, porting, race clearances, special seals, etc will change a whole lot). Not to mention if I had used parts and no way to measure/inspect them, I'd err on the side of replacement to be safe.

Dave

TuneyFish

What would be really helpful is someone taking video while doing the rebuild using the DVD's.

That would point out the sections that aren't quite clear enough, and from a perspective of someone trying this for the first time.

The professional DVD's are great, but just capturing shorter clips are what we are trying to encourage people to do.

There are just so many details that can't all be included in a single DVD, so having a free resource for useful content is what we are building at http://www.tuneyfish.com

grimple1

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we don't really need video of someone using a video. just post up experiences.

TuneyFish

Sounds like an odd proposition but it really would help IMO. If someone is using a DVD and going through the rebuild process, the easiest way to take "notes" along the way would be to capture it with a videocamera because its a visual process. I can see if your following a write-up to post about your experience in text, but a video experience should be followed up with video although I may be a little biased here.

Then you offer a place for all of these videos to kept that relate to the original DVD to add even more visual aids to the process.

DVD's are great, but some are so out of date that having a reference to current information is more appealing to me. When I'm searching for information whether its google or in the forums, I always take note of the date because the older stuff from say 2004 may be irrelevant due to new products now available. The same goes for video, the latest content is very desirable.

vudoodoodoo

If you have the time (winter), patience, garage space, and tools (money) go for it.

douwe

found this one if anyone after a free download thanks to whoever put it up

http://www.torrentreactor.net/torren...567/DIY-RE-13B

patman

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I don't know why everyone is so scared about this... it is really very easy.
If you have ever rebuilt a regular piston engine, it is considerably easier than that.