If you had to give up your FD
Admitted you were right about what? That fd's can produce more power for 2500 bucks than the ls? Yeah I can agree. Because ITS FI.
That you were right about I was comparing about displacement? No you were wrong. You failed to see the comparison of the 2 threads in relation what was being talked about.
You DISECTED THE POSTS for no reason. Maybe just to argue? But you failed to see the point and just went on.
At first you were stating the fd can make more power per given dollars, which is obvious but also forgot about the fact its FI.
Then all of a sudden when i mention the vette made 600hp from a 6.2 v8 you're saying well GM put a supercharger on it..
You totally failed to see I said that to point out the FI to na. But again you missed it.
Yes you did clog up the thread. Thanks.
That you were right about I was comparing about displacement? No you were wrong. You failed to see the comparison of the 2 threads in relation what was being talked about.
You DISECTED THE POSTS for no reason. Maybe just to argue? But you failed to see the point and just went on.
At first you were stating the fd can make more power per given dollars, which is obvious but also forgot about the fact its FI.
Then all of a sudden when i mention the vette made 600hp from a 6.2 v8 you're saying well GM put a supercharger on it..
You totally failed to see I said that to point out the FI to na. But again you missed it.
Yes you did clog up the thread. Thanks.
If I had to for some horrific reason give up my FD, the only other car I want is a ferrari 599 GTO....... but since that'll never happen id get another FD, their's just no replacement for the car.
I gave up my FD for a Porsche 993 and haven't looked back. Sure, it's not as fast, but I've spent the past couple of years modding the suspension ( Moton Motorsports) and the nut behind the wheel and it does just fine at the track. Also, I think it's one of the best looking P-cars, IMO of course. I'd really like to replace it with a 993 Cup car.
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I gave up my FD for a Porsche 993 and haven't looked back. Sure, it's not as fast, but I've spent the past couple of years modding the suspension ( Moton Motorsports) and the nut behind the wheel and it does just fine at the track. Also, I think it's one of the best looking P-cars, IMO of course. I'd really like to replace it with a 993 Cup car.


If you don't mind the cost a P car is hard to beat
I may have to hang onto this Cayman but it's already down with PS fluid issues and I bet the bill is 1k just to fix the PS lines. Wouldn't cost a thing if it was the FD.
I bet I know what the majority would say...
Lotus Elise/Exige
Acura NSX
Vette
Rx8
Porsche
S2000
I feel like those would be the only cars that could offer the type of fun an FD might. Of course you will have people that go totally different and they probably went Supra.
How is the Supra a totally different route? while it looks huge compared to the FD (and most vehicles do) it handles quite well. And regardless of personal feelings toward them an honest enthusiast must admit that they have decent out of the box (2jz no ****!) and are nearly bullet proof compared to most motors.
How is the Supra a totally different route? while it looks huge compared to the FD (and most vehicles do) it handles quite well. And regardless of personal feelings toward them an honest enthusiast must admit that they have decent out of the box (2jz no ****!) and are nearly bullet proof compared to most motors.
Looks like the car is ready to rock and roll again?
If you don't mind the cost a P car is hard to beat
I may have to hang onto this Cayman but it's already down with PS fluid issues and I bet the bill is 1k just to fix the PS lines. Wouldn't cost a thing if it was the FD.
If you don't mind the cost a P car is hard to beat
I may have to hang onto this Cayman but it's already down with PS fluid issues and I bet the bill is 1k just to fix the PS lines. Wouldn't cost a thing if it was the FD.
TPC in Maryland has just the thing to fix that pesky PS issue. A couple buddies had it done and it's been rock solid since. That said, yea it's probably a grand. It is P-Car money after all.
How is the Supra a totally different route? while it looks huge compared to the FD (and most vehicles do) it handles quite well. And regardless of personal feelings toward them an honest enthusiast must admit that they have decent out of the box (2jz no ****!) and are nearly bullet proof compared to most motors.
While the car is bigger obviously, and heavier obviously, it can still be competitive with the FD both in stock and in modified form. The stock comparison numbers dont lie.
So while it can do well on the track, its an amazing straight line performer, has a backseat, and can be used every single day as a daily driver.
The supra tt should definitely be in the same category as the FD.
Have you driven a jza80 Andy? They actually handle significantly better than you would think, I would definitely not say they feel huge. I have been in 6 or 7 mkiv's and was thoroughly impressed with all of them. They look much bigger than they feel.
Haha I havent bought anything yet, waiting until I move out of NYC but it is no secret I will be moving into a viper. Or if I am living in fantasy land, like a few of these other posts, CarreraGT and my life is complete.
IMO a rx8 is a downgrade after owning a FD.
Post up man!
I bet I know what the majority would say...
Lotus Elise/Exige
Acura NSX
Vette
Rx8
Porsche
S2000
I feel like those would be the only cars that could offer the type of fun an FD might. Of course you will have people that go totally different and they probably went Supra.
I bet I know what the majority would say...
Lotus Elise/Exige
Acura NSX
Vette
Rx8
Porsche
S2000
I feel like those would be the only cars that could offer the type of fun an FD might. Of course you will have people that go totally different and they probably went Supra.
IMO a rx8 is a downgrade after owning a FD.
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For us yea but I can see why people would make the transition.
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Conceptually, Lotus Exiges and Honda S2000 or NSX are all below 3000 pounds and therefore somewhat similar to FD. I like the Porsche Cayman, which is also a tick below 3000 and a prettier piece in my eyes anyway and a great handling car (right, Fritz?). Used Cayman's (2008) are around $20-26,000 with 30-40,000 miles on them, so priced right.
Gordon
Gordon
Here's a vid chasing down a heavily modded C5 Z on Hoosier R6s.
Here's another vid giving a student a rid along. Notice the road block Supra
. I've never been on track EVER with a supra that showed me anything at all. I understand Leh Keen used to drive a heavily modded one that was pretty quick. The only reason the FD didn't kill the supra in every category is the tire size. The supra actually outbraked the RX7......explain that one LOL. I've said it many time but the FD dominated and I mean DOMINATED autocrosses for a good 10 years. Where was the Supra? Sorry but in my book it's not even on the same planet as the FD. With tons of $s tossed at it I'm sure it would compete but the drive and vibe is night and day.
Nice laps Fritz. Would love a ride the Cayman or the keys. I've instructed in them quite a bit and am always impressed. Buy some better tires without those wonky sizes and see what she'll do.
Not yet, it's been too hot out to do anything. I should be hitting the dyno again for some more tuning. I'll get some video of that.
Last edited by RENESISFD; Jul 12, 2012 at 11:33 PM. Reason: removed vid from quote
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My tranny oil is long due and I can't/don't wanna do it cause its been amazon hot lately.
How reliable is the nsx still after going turbo?








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