How to value your FD
#1827
Eh
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Not an FD but should be very interesting...
1994 7k mile Turbo Supra. 7 days to go and current bid is at $60,000
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1994-toyota-supra-19/
1994 7k mile Turbo Supra. 7 days to go and current bid is at $60,000
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1994-toyota-supra-19/
Ill guess $105k before fees. Id be willing to bet there are more under 10k mile Supras left then FDs. Guys were parking the Supras back in the mid 2000s when prices made their first surge. I'm sure it will be an interesting year for the Supra market on BAT as it is seeming to gain a little traction.
#1829
RX-7 Bad Ass
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Ill guess $105k before fees. Id be willing to bet there are more under 10k mile Supras left then FDs. Guys were parking the Supras back in the mid 2000s when prices made their first surge. I'm sure it will be an interesting year for the Supra market on BAT as it is seeming to gain a little traction.
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#1834
Full Member
Not an FD but should be very interesting...
1994 7k mile Turbo Supra. 7 days to go and current bid is at $60,000
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1994-toyota-supra-19/
1994 7k mile Turbo Supra. 7 days to go and current bid is at $60,000
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1994-toyota-supra-19/
Amazing!
#1840
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I guess I just don't get it. I mean the values are driven by demand and availability, but why? On my scale, as far as appeal, the supra ranks close to the same as the imported 90s Skylines, an ugly, heavy old Nissan with the steering wheel on the wrong side. Don't get me wrong, they both were cool muscle cars, especially the supra, what with the amount of power you could throw at the stock engine internals. This Toyota just sold for $120k? A true supercar like an NSX should be selling for $240k. Makes no sense. Give me an NSX, a tastefully modded FD, or (gasp) a nice 996 over a Supra any day, and twice on Sunday.
#1841
Eh
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I guess I just don't get it. I mean the values are driven by demand and availability, but why? On my scale, as far as appeal, the supra ranks close to the same as the imported 90s Skylines, an ugly, heavy old Nissan with the steering wheel on the wrong side. Don't get me wrong, they both were cool muscle cars, especially the supra, what with the amount of power you could throw at the stock engine internals. This Toyota just sold for $120k? A true supercar like an NSX should be selling for $240k. Makes no sense. Give me an NSX, a tastefully modded FD, or (gasp) a nice 996 over a Supra any day, and twice on Sunday.
The FD, the Supra and the NSX all have their following and offer something unique. At the end of the day I judge on overall appearance and driver experience. I do not have a collectors mindset and likely never will. With that said, technology has come a long way since any of these cars were produced. I drove my FD last night on some back roads in cool 40 degree air and was reminded again of why the car is special. Its not $50k special though, I could be driving a used 911 turbo that started at $150k for that price point with way more creature comforts and better performance and arguably better looks. Basically, we can all justify one car over another based on our preference. The FD gives me an experience the Supra never could, I also didn't cringe over every bump in my supra, knew the air was gonna be ice cold on a 95 degree day and never once smelled like fuel when I went in to a restaurant or bar to meet friends.
#1842
Built Not Bought
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Comparing a Supra to a 996 is crazy. I've driven a clean turbo 996 and a Supra is hands down better, unless all you care about is owning a Porsche for the name. They are only going up in price because all the other models are now much more expensive. Just like crappy old 914s are now worth money.
An NSX from the 90's is not a true supercar, just like an FD and Supra are not. You can't put it in a different category. The new NSX is a super car, you can't say the old one is just because the new one is.
I'm with DJ, not a collectors mindset myself. But if you put yourself in a collector's shoes, these low mileage examples are worth what they are selling for (obviously, otherwise they wouldn't be selling).
An NSX from the 90's is not a true supercar, just like an FD and Supra are not. You can't put it in a different category. The new NSX is a super car, you can't say the old one is just because the new one is.
I'm with DJ, not a collectors mindset myself. But if you put yourself in a collector's shoes, these low mileage examples are worth what they are selling for (obviously, otherwise they wouldn't be selling).
#1843
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Nostalgia man, it has nothing to do with what car you think is better/faster on paper or which car actually is best in real life.
Nostalgia + rarity + original MSRP. That's all that matters.
(as an aside, I'm with the 996 folks on here too, I'll have a GT3 shortly after I sell the FD)
Nostalgia + rarity + original MSRP. That's all that matters.
(as an aside, I'm with the 996 folks on here too, I'll have a GT3 shortly after I sell the FD)
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#1847
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Comparing a Supra to a 996 is crazy. I've driven a clean turbo 996 and a Supra is hands down better, unless all you care about is owning a Porsche for the name. They are only going up in price because all the other models are now much more expensive. Just like crappy old 914s are now worth money.
An NSX from the 90's is not a true supercar, just like an FD and Supra are not. You can't put it in a different category. The new NSX is a super car, you can't say the old one is just because the new one is.
I'm with DJ, not a collectors mindset myself. But if you put yourself in a collector's shoes, these low mileage examples are worth what they are selling for (obviously, otherwise they wouldn't be selling).
An NSX from the 90's is not a true supercar, just like an FD and Supra are not. You can't put it in a different category. The new NSX is a super car, you can't say the old one is just because the new one is.
I'm with DJ, not a collectors mindset myself. But if you put yourself in a collector's shoes, these low mileage examples are worth what they are selling for (obviously, otherwise they wouldn't be selling).
#1848
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Disagree on two accounts. The NSX was certainly regarded by some as THE jap supercar of the 90s. The performance figures (for the time period), mid-engine layout, the engineering (ayrton senna influence) etc. Underpowered, yes maybe a little compared to the FD, Supra, 911 turbo, et al. It was like a $150k car in today's money when you factor in people were paying $20k plus over sticker. initially. Secondly, and maybe I'm in the minority, but, a Supra, "hands down better" than a 996 turbo? Sweet Jesus. I've heard it all now. Is all the 996 hate truly because the headlights were not round enough?
Demand in the collector market has rarely made sense to me........one's desire for a specific car is an emotional thing which rarely makes sense on paper
Practically speaking it's all about mustangs and camaros. That said those type cars are on the frayed edges of my FEELS radar and the FD pretty much hits the bullseye (light weight, looks good and fun to drive).
There is no way I can possibly explain why someone would spend 121k on a supra or worse 500k plus on a 4.0 GT3 but clearly the desire for each of them is STRONG!!!!!
#1850
Built Not Bought
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Originally Posted by aplscrambles
Disagree on two accounts. The NSX was certainly regarded by some as THE jap supercar of the 90s. The performance figures (for the time period), mid-engine layout, the engineering (ayrton senna influence) etc. Underpowered, yes maybe a little compared to the FD, Supra, 911 turbo, et al. It was like a $150k car in today's money when you factor in people were paying $20k plus over sticker. initially. Secondly, and maybe I'm in the minority, but, a Supra, "hands down better" than a 996 turbo? Sweet Jesus. I've heard it all now. Is all the 996 hate truly because the headlights were not round enough?
I drove a clean 996 turbo 2 weeks ago. Yes, the front end is hideous, but even ignoring that, I'd prefer to drive a Supra any day. It just drives better.
Have you driven the NSX? If you haven't driven it, an FD, and a supra, you wouldn't cal it THE supercar from Japan in the 90's. You are just saying what the Honda marketing team generated. I could be wrong and maybe you have driven all of them, I just don't see how it's so different than the other Japanese sports cars produced to put it at a different level. In my mind a supercar from the 90's is a diablo, or top level Ferrari, or others that are similar. Performance may be similar in some cases, but that's not the only thing that makes a car a supercar.