E-FD3S Type RB special edition
E-FD3S Type RB special edition
Can anyone tell me what FD I have here and what specs should the car come with. I'm new to the forum and bought this 95 RX seven here are the manufacture plates and stickers with information. Please help me understand what I have here and if it's common or rare.
From a glance, it appears to be a Bathurst X, one of 780. Only 668 of the 6388 Version 3 cars had a red interior though. I can run a build sheet later today to properly authenticate it from the VIN and leave zero doubts about how it came from the factory
It seems a bit odd, because I would have understood a Type RB Bathurst X would have been a version 4 car, but this car has a version 3 number. The Version 3 were Type R Bathurst X. Which certainly were a special edition. In version 4, they had a Type RB Bathurst X, but it was a base model Type RB with just the Bathurst X stickers (and, it seems, the red seat option). The VIN number of this car appears to be a very late version 3 car. Maybe they jumped the gun.
Looking at the "final" parts catalogue for Version 3, There was indeed Type RB cars, but it only show Type R Bathurst X. In the version 4 "final" parts catalogue it lists Type RB. But it lists Bathurst X separately without saying if it is Type RB or Type R. It also shows that Red Leather seats were standard.
The version 4 Bathurst X catalogue uses the same brochure as the version three only "Type R Bathurst X" is changed to "Type RB Bathurst X". I believe in the version 4 Type RB very cheap seats were used, so maybe retaining the leather was a way to keep the special feel of the Bqathurst X.
Brian Long remarks in his book that, after being produced as two special editions in 1995, the Bathurst line entered general production for the first time in 1996.
One clue would be the steering wheel. The Type RB Bathurst X would have an airbag wheel.
The version 3 Type RB would have had the "four post" R1 style wing, whereas the Type R Bathurst X introduced the "two post" "whatetail" type wing, that became standard on version 4 cars.
Another clue would be if the car has a single or a double oil cooler set-up.
Looking at the "final" parts catalogue for Version 3, There was indeed Type RB cars, but it only show Type R Bathurst X. In the version 4 "final" parts catalogue it lists Type RB. But it lists Bathurst X separately without saying if it is Type RB or Type R. It also shows that Red Leather seats were standard.
The version 4 Bathurst X catalogue uses the same brochure as the version three only "Type R Bathurst X" is changed to "Type RB Bathurst X". I believe in the version 4 Type RB very cheap seats were used, so maybe retaining the leather was a way to keep the special feel of the Bqathurst X.
Brian Long remarks in his book that, after being produced as two special editions in 1995, the Bathurst line entered general production for the first time in 1996.
One clue would be the steering wheel. The Type RB Bathurst X would have an airbag wheel.
The version 3 Type RB would have had the "four post" R1 style wing, whereas the Type R Bathurst X introduced the "two post" "whatetail" type wing, that became standard on version 4 cars.
Another clue would be if the car has a single or a double oil cooler set-up.
Last edited by Redbul; Sep 27, 2023 at 03:23 AM.
Here is a genuine Type R Bathurst X that was sold on BAT earlier this year.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1995-mazda-rx-7-25/
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1995-mazda-rx-7-25/
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305795 has the bins from a Type RZ swapped in and the base Efiini steering wheel, whereas it should have the rare first edition of a Momo steering wheel used briefly in late 1995 FDs.
(The initial Bathurst, the Type R II, Bathurst had bins.)
(The initial Bathurst, the Type R II, Bathurst had bins.)
It seems Graben (grey tinted glass) would be a hard to fake clue. Base models , like the Type RB, had "blue/green" tinted glass.
In 1995 a Type R Bathurst also appears in sales brochures, but is not referenced in the parts manuals.
In 1995 a Type R Bathurst also appears in sales brochures, but is not referenced in the parts manuals.
Last edited by Redbul; Sep 27, 2023 at 03:52 AM.
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something like this:
I always found it fascinating how Japan has so many variations and trim packages vs the United states. I dove into all these differences when I started shopping for a RHD car and couldn't believe how different it was compared to the few models we got here, mainly how most of the RHD FDs didn't have sunroofs. I also found that many of the cars for sale, especially over auction, have had parts swapped like mentioned above. Seats are often moved around. Not just for Mazda but I have seen this across multiple manufactures, Nissan, Toyota etc. Even when it comes to powertrain configurations. Look how many different kind of engines came in skylines.
Brian Long mentions that by the end of 1995 Mazda was getting desperate to find ways to move FD resulting in a plethora of configurations, It seems the Type R Bathurst X may have been reworked Type RB. The parts manual list over 50 differences between the Bathurst X ,and the base Type RB, although many of those differences are related to the red trim pieces (there are actually a lot). The fact the manufacturers tag says Type RB might indicate the chassis were actually pulled back and reconfigured.
The Bathurst X was largely marketed in the White/Red Leather configuration, so the BB version may be even more rare. There was not a BB version in any of the sales brochure pics
The relative uniqueness of the 1995 Bathurst X has largely gone unrecognized, and so the survival rate of those that have come to Canada has not been great.
So, in my opinion, this represents a speculative opportunity as people become more interested to the different types.
(Or not)
The Bathurst X was largely marketed in the White/Red Leather configuration, so the BB version may be even more rare. There was not a BB version in any of the sales brochure pics
The relative uniqueness of the 1995 Bathurst X has largely gone unrecognized, and so the survival rate of those that have come to Canada has not been great.
So, in my opinion, this represents a speculative opportunity as people become more interested to the different types.
(Or not)
Brian Long mentions that by the end of 1995 Mazda was getting desperate to find ways to move FD resulting in a plethora of configurations, It seems the Type R Bathurst X may have been reworked Type RB. The parts manual list over 50 differences between the Bathurst X ,and the base Type RB, although many of those differences are related to the red trim pieces (there are actually a lot). The fact the manufacturers tag says Type RB might indicate the chassis were actually pulled back and reconfigured.
The Bathurst X was largely marketed in the White/Red Leather configuration, so the BB version may be even more rare. There was not a BB version in any of the sales brochure pics
The relative uniqueness of the 1995 Bathurst X has largely gone unrecognized, and so the survival rate of those that have come to Canada has not been great.
So, in my opinion, this represents a speculative opportunity as people become more interested to the different types.
(Or not)
The Bathurst X was largely marketed in the White/Red Leather configuration, so the BB version may be even more rare. There was not a BB version in any of the sales brochure pics
The relative uniqueness of the 1995 Bathurst X has largely gone unrecognized, and so the survival rate of those that have come to Canada has not been great.
So, in my opinion, this represents a speculative opportunity as people become more interested to the different types.
(Or not)
I didn't think there were people interested in the different jdm models! I looked for a long to find mine (it's my favourite model: 1997 type rs)
I wish there were a section on this club dedicated to the different jdm models and their differences. I have all the jdm brochures and some parts catalogs if can somehow help with this.
I wish there were a section on this club dedicated to the different jdm models and their differences. I have all the jdm brochures and some parts catalogs if can somehow help with this.
I forgot to add, that at some point I started compiling productions data (numbers, colors etc) on jdm models using available tools online
but for some reason I couldn't get results for the 94 and 95 model years (but I could for the 91-93 and 96-03)
but for some reason I couldn't get results for the 94 and 95 model years (but I could for the 91-93 and 96-03)
I didn't think there were people interested in the different jdm models! I looked for a long to find mine (it's my favourite model: 1997 type rs)
I wish there were a section on this club dedicated to the different jdm models and their differences. I have all the jdm brochures and some parts catalogs if can somehow help with this.
I wish there were a section on this club dedicated to the different jdm models and their differences. I have all the jdm brochures and some parts catalogs if can somehow help with this.
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I didn't think there were people interested in the different jdm models! I looked for a long to find mine (it's my favourite model: 1997 type rs)
I wish there were a section on this club dedicated to the different jdm models and their differences. I have all the jdm brochures and some parts catalogs if can somehow help with this.
I wish there were a section on this club dedicated to the different jdm models and their differences. I have all the jdm brochures and some parts catalogs if can somehow help with this.
I made a chart with most of this data in it, broken down by MSC codes. Kinda silly to re-invent the wheel.
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I started this thread with the intention people would contribute RHD info to it. I also started a thread for comparing RHD and LHD parts.
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-gen-gene...148527/page15/
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-gen-gene...148527/page15/
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