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Old Sep 23, 2023 | 07:50 AM
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E-FD3S Type RB special edition



Can anyone tell me what FD I have here and what specs should the car come with. I'm new to the forum and bought this 95 RX seven here are the manufacture plates and stickers with information. Please help me understand what I have here and if it's common or rare.
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Old Sep 23, 2023 | 09:02 AM
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Looks like it's a bathurst x


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Old Sep 23, 2023 | 09:09 AM
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Thanks. More info

Is this a good spec, is it considered a Mazda speed? Only 67k kilometers. Has original red interior.
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Old Sep 23, 2023 | 09:38 AM
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From a glance, it appears to be a Bathurst X, one of 780. Only 668 of the 6388 Version 3 cars had a red interior though. I can run a build sheet later today to properly authenticate it from the VIN and leave zero doubts about how it came from the factory
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Old Sep 26, 2023 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Austinbutler85
is it considered a Mazda speed?
Not a Mazdaspeed model.

Every FD sticker says Special Edition, because "Special Edition" is a label, with nothing listed below it indicates that it isn't a special edition.
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Old Sep 27, 2023 | 02:42 AM
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It seems a bit odd, because I would have understood a Type RB Bathurst X would have been a version 4 car, but this car has a version 3 number. The Version 3 were Type R Bathurst X. Which certainly were a special edition. In version 4, they had a Type RB Bathurst X, but it was a base model Type RB with just the Bathurst X stickers (and, it seems, the red seat option). The VIN number of this car appears to be a very late version 3 car. Maybe they jumped the gun.

Looking at the "final" parts catalogue for Version 3, There was indeed Type RB cars, but it only show Type R Bathurst X. In the version 4 "final" parts catalogue it lists Type RB. But it lists Bathurst X separately without saying if it is Type RB or Type R. It also shows that Red Leather seats were standard.

The version 4 Bathurst X catalogue uses the same brochure as the version three only "Type R Bathurst X" is changed to "Type RB Bathurst X". I believe in the version 4 Type RB very cheap seats were used, so maybe retaining the leather was a way to keep the special feel of the Bqathurst X.

Brian Long remarks in his book that, after being produced as two special editions in 1995, the Bathurst line entered general production for the first time in 1996.

One clue would be the steering wheel. The Type RB Bathurst X would have an airbag wheel.

The version 3 Type RB would have had the "four post" R1 style wing, whereas the Type R Bathurst X introduced the "two post" "whatetail" type wing, that became standard on version 4 cars.

Another clue would be if the car has a single or a double oil cooler set-up.


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Old Sep 27, 2023 | 03:29 AM
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Here is a genuine Type R Bathurst X that was sold on BAT earlier this year.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1995-mazda-rx-7-25/
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Old Sep 27, 2023 | 03:32 AM
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Interestingly, it is also designated a Type RB and has no special mention of being a Bathurst X.
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Old Sep 27, 2023 | 03:41 AM
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305795 has the bins from a Type RZ swapped in and the base Efiini steering wheel, whereas it should have the rare first edition of a Momo steering wheel used briefly in late 1995 FDs.

(The initial Bathurst, the Type R II, Bathurst had bins.)
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Old Sep 27, 2023 | 03:48 AM
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It seems Graben (grey tinted glass) would be a hard to fake clue. Base models , like the Type RB, had "blue/green" tinted glass.

In 1995 a Type R Bathurst also appears in sales brochures, but is not referenced in the parts manuals.


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Old Sep 27, 2023 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Redbul
In 1995 a Type R Bathurst also appears in sales brochures, but is not referenced in the parts manuals.
often stuff like that has a separate piece of paper with the special edition parts. like the 1983 Limited Edition, or the Mazdaspeed cars, or the special Miatas

something like this:


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Old Sep 27, 2023 | 10:15 AM
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I always found it fascinating how Japan has so many variations and trim packages vs the United states. I dove into all these differences when I started shopping for a RHD car and couldn't believe how different it was compared to the few models we got here, mainly how most of the RHD FDs didn't have sunroofs. I also found that many of the cars for sale, especially over auction, have had parts swapped like mentioned above. Seats are often moved around. Not just for Mazda but I have seen this across multiple manufactures, Nissan, Toyota etc. Even when it comes to powertrain configurations. Look how many different kind of engines came in skylines.
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Old Sep 27, 2023 | 01:28 PM
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Brian Long mentions that by the end of 1995 Mazda was getting desperate to find ways to move FD resulting in a plethora of configurations, It seems the Type R Bathurst X may have been reworked Type RB. The parts manual list over 50 differences between the Bathurst X ,and the base Type RB, although many of those differences are related to the red trim pieces (there are actually a lot). The fact the manufacturers tag says Type RB might indicate the chassis were actually pulled back and reconfigured.

The Bathurst X was largely marketed in the White/Red Leather configuration, so the BB version may be even more rare. There was not a BB version in any of the sales brochure pics

The relative uniqueness of the 1995 Bathurst X has largely gone unrecognized, and so the survival rate of those that have come to Canada has not been great.

So, in my opinion, this represents a speculative opportunity as people become more interested to the different types.

(Or not)



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Old Sep 27, 2023 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Redbul
Brian Long mentions that by the end of 1995 Mazda was getting desperate to find ways to move FD resulting in a plethora of configurations, It seems the Type R Bathurst X may have been reworked Type RB. The parts manual list over 50 differences between the Bathurst X ,and the base Type RB, although many of those differences are related to the red trim pieces (there are actually a lot). The fact the manufacturers tag says Type RB might indicate the chassis were actually pulled back and reconfigured.

The Bathurst X was largely marketed in the White/Red Leather configuration, so the BB version may be even more rare. There was not a BB version in any of the sales brochure pics

The relative uniqueness of the 1995 Bathurst X has largely gone unrecognized, and so the survival rate of those that have come to Canada has not been great.

So, in my opinion, this represents a speculative opportunity as people become more interested to the different types.

(Or not)
I passed on a few clean Bathurst Xs mainly because I am not a fan of the red interior even if it is rare.....and I was holding out for a white one unless I could find an RZ in my budget
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Old Sep 27, 2023 | 07:40 PM
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Seems the red leather did not age well and it is hard to find a clean replacement set.
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Old Sep 28, 2023 | 07:33 AM
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I didn't think there were people interested in the different jdm models! I looked for a long to find mine (it's my favourite model: 1997 type rs)
I wish there were a section on this club dedicated to the different jdm models and their differences. I have all the jdm brochures and some parts catalogs if can somehow help with this.
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Old Sep 28, 2023 | 07:45 AM
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I forgot to add, that at some point I started compiling productions data (numbers, colors etc) on jdm models using available tools online
but for some reason I couldn't get results for the 94 and 95 model years (but I could for the 91-93 and 96-03)
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Old Sep 28, 2023 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by helicon
I didn't think there were people interested in the different jdm models! I looked for a long to find mine (it's my favourite model: 1997 type rs)
I wish there were a section on this club dedicated to the different jdm models and their differences. I have all the jdm brochures and some parts catalogs if can somehow help with this.
I was looking for a white 96+ RS as well because of the gearing, larger brakes and Dual oil coolers. Close to an RZ but with back seats and no fancy front seats. I found a super clean Type R which came in about $10K under what I was looking to spend for an RS and fit everything but the larger brakes and gearing which I'm fine with. I may upgrade to RZ brakes in the future and the gearing isn't that big of a deal but would have been nice for AutoX. If I want it that bad, I can source and replace myself.
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Old Sep 28, 2023 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by helicon
I didn't think there were people interested in the different jdm models! I looked for a long to find mine (it's my favourite model: 1997 type rs)
I wish there were a section on this club dedicated to the different jdm models and their differences. I have all the jdm brochures and some parts catalogs if can somehow help with this.
make a thread!
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Old Sep 28, 2023 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by helicon
I forgot to add, that at some point I started compiling productions data (numbers, colors etc) on jdm models using available tools online
but for some reason I couldn't get results for the 94 and 95 model years (but I could for the 91-93 and 96-03)
I made a chart with most of this data in it, broken down by MSC codes. Kinda silly to re-invent the wheel.
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Old Sep 28, 2023 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Akagis_white_comet
I made a chart with most of this data in it, broken down by MSC codes. Kinda silly to re-invent the wheel.
where could one look at the chart?
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Old Sep 28, 2023 | 01:08 PM
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I started this thread with the intention people would contribute RHD info to it. I also started a thread for comparing RHD and LHD parts.



https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-gen-gene...148527/page15/
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Old Oct 5, 2023 | 08:27 PM
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Here is a parts car for you:

https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/...uggest_history
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