2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

Your engine SMOKE? Try Napa Engine Seal

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-10-11, 07:44 PM
  #26  
I have a rotary addiction

iTrader: (18)
 
NCross's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Columbia, Tennessee
Posts: 4,815
Received 23 Likes on 22 Posts
Use brake fluid. It will swell up the seals. Just change the oil after 200 miles or so.
Old 11-10-11, 09:26 PM
  #27  
Ban Peak

iTrader: (49)
 
Molotovman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 3,995
Received 412 Likes on 265 Posts
This thread is old. I can't believe I'm first to point it out.

Good job searching though, Newguy.
Old 11-12-11, 12:03 PM
  #28  
Junior Member
 
NightShift3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: wisconsin
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
lol... didn't mean to be that guy I'm just trying to find some help to figure out whats going on with my wankel
Old 11-12-11, 09:00 PM
  #29  
Sharp Claws

iTrader: (30)
 
RotaryEvolution's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 5,107
Likes: 0
Received 41 Likes on 40 Posts
and most piston cars don't have an oil cooler, great, i'm sure this crap will seal it solid in no time...

for every pro there is a con, remember this always.

if your engine is done, wait until you can fix it properly. keep in mind a fresh engine just might last you another 20 years.
Old 11-12-11, 09:14 PM
  #30  
tigers LOVE pepper!!!!!

iTrader: (52)
 
southsidecox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: gadsden al
Posts: 827
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
relax,take a couple valiumthe threads from 2010,noob forgiven, its pretty amusing tho when someone bumps a thread from say... the year two-thousand and four
Old 11-12-11, 09:20 PM
  #31  
Sharp Claws

iTrader: (30)
 
RotaryEvolution's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 5,107
Likes: 0
Received 41 Likes on 40 Posts
and since it was bumped people will read it and think it's a good idea for the case that their 25 year old motor finally craps out an oil seal.

i hate dissecting projects that people dump this sort of crap into.

i deal with stupid ideas and how to fix them properly almost every day where people go on the cheap. it is more than irritating when much of my time is spent given away fixing ignorance.
Old 11-12-11, 09:37 PM
  #32  
Junior Member
 
NightShift3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: wisconsin
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Karack
and since it was bumped people will read it and think it's a good idea for the case that their 25 year old motor finally craps out an oil seal.

i hate dissecting projects that people dump this sort of crap into.

i deal with stupid ideas and how to fix them properly almost every day where people go on the cheap. it is more than irritating when much of my time is spent given away fixing ignorance.
look bro, i don't understand why your getting so pissy. I'm just trying to get information about what is going on with my car. if it irritates you so much to help people then maybe you should waste your time doing something else?
Old 11-12-11, 11:12 PM
  #33  
Sharp Claws

iTrader: (30)
 
RotaryEvolution's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 5,107
Likes: 0
Received 41 Likes on 40 Posts
Originally Posted by NightShift3
look bro, i don't understand why your getting so pissy. I'm just trying to get information about what is going on with my car. if it irritates you so much to help people then maybe you should waste your time doing something else?
bothering me? i'm trying to help, whatever.

want another suggestion? save up for an engine rebuild. these engines have hit their shelf life limit so if you have an original engine, time's up. everyone who still is managing to drive their original 20-25 year old engines are running on borrowed time. the main seals in these engines are simple high temp silicone, which doesn't last forever.

Last edited by RotaryEvolution; 11-12-11 at 11:14 PM.
Old 11-12-11, 11:21 PM
  #34  
Original Gangster/Rotary!


iTrader: (213)
 
GoodfellaFD3S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
Posts: 30,529
Received 539 Likes on 326 Posts
Wink

Originally Posted by NightShift3
look bro, i don't understand why your getting so pissy. I'm just trying to get information about what is going on with my car. if it irritates you so much to help people then maybe you should waste your time doing something else?
Bro, try and show a little respect for some of the forum veterans around here, or you'll be getting information about your car on some other forum. Because you'll be banned. Feel me bro?
Old 11-13-11, 09:12 AM
  #35  
Junior Member
 
NightShift3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: wisconsin
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Karack
bothering me? i'm trying to help, whatever.

want another suggestion? save up for an engine rebuild. these engines have hit their shelf life limit so if you have an original engine, time's up. everyone who still is managing to drive their original 20-25 year old engines are running on borrowed time. the main seals in these engines are simple high temp silicone, which doesn't last forever.
damn.. well that doesn't sound very optimistic what engine do you run?
Old 11-13-11, 09:15 AM
  #36  
Junior Member
 
NightShift3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: wisconsin
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Bro, try and show a little respect for some of the forum veterans around here, or you'll be getting information about your car on some other forum. Because you'll be banned. Feel me bro?
how about a little respect for the forum amateurs, bromosexual.
Old 11-13-11, 10:01 AM
  #37  
Jackstand Drifter

iTrader: (10)
 
Osirus9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 1,065
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Mouthing off to moderators and professional engine builders is a sure way to get the info you want. Ever hear of the search button? You'll find all the information you need there for such a simple question.

also...
Old 11-13-11, 11:55 AM
  #38  
Sharp Claws

iTrader: (30)
 
RotaryEvolution's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 5,107
Likes: 0
Received 41 Likes on 40 Posts
parafin based lubricants just cause a huge mess to clean up during a rebuild(not to mention possibly clog up the oil injection system so the internals may not get any lubrication and wear dramatically as your sacrificial lamb). if you don't plan on using the engine or oil cooler again then feel free to use the additives.

which engine do i run? that's a stupid question if you read my signature which is just below everything i write.

anyways, cut him a little bit of slack. most everyone knows i rub everyone the wrong way sooner or later.

Last edited by RotaryEvolution; 11-13-11 at 12:05 PM.
Old 11-14-11, 03:45 PM
  #39  
The Blue Blur

 
Rx-7fetish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Virginia
Posts: 716
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Not trying to be annoying but if your using a mobile device like I do sig's don't show up on the mobile site. Anyways you weren't directly talking to him, just ranting out loud that the stuff sucks, I agree. He kinda flew off the handle towards you.
Old 11-14-11, 04:14 PM
  #40  
The Blue Blur

 
Rx-7fetish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Virginia
Posts: 716
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Osirus9
Ever hear of the search button? You'll find all the information you need there for such a simple question. [/IMG]
In his defense if he brought back an old thread he prolly found it by searching.
Old 11-14-11, 09:16 PM
  #41  
~!@#$%^&*()_+

 
GregW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Mpls, MN
Posts: 461
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The reason folks get pissy about it is they have dealt with things people do to "fix" their cars on a daily basis and now is our/their chance to say "hey, thats effin stupid, here is why, don’t do it.

Here is a nice pic for you to enjoy I feel it is relevant.


Originally Posted by NightShift3
look bro, i don't understand why your getting so pissy. I'm just trying to get information about what is going on with my car. if it irritates you so much to help people then maybe you should waste your time doing something else?
Attached Thumbnails Your engine SMOKE? Try Napa Engine Seal-11-1.jpg  
Old 11-16-11, 04:07 PM
  #42  
Junior Member
 
NightShift3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: wisconsin
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Rx-7fetish
In his defense if he brought back an old thread he prolly found it by searching.
Exactly..
Old 11-16-11, 04:18 PM
  #43  
Junior Member
 
NightShift3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: wisconsin
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Karack
parafin based lubricants just cause a huge mess to clean up during a rebuild(not to mention possibly clog up the oil injection system so the internals may not get any lubrication and wear dramatically as your sacrificial lamb). if you don't plan on using the engine or oil cooler again then feel free to use the additives.

which engine do i run? that's a stupid question if you read my signature which is just below everything i write.

anyways, cut him a little bit of slack. most everyone knows i rub everyone the wrong way sooner or later.
thanks i'll keep the additives thing in mind..

I was once told no question is stupid so my apologies for being wrong there too.. the only thing i'm seeing in your sig. is a sales pitch on engine rebuilds though.

but yea I'm not trying to **** anyone off just looking to talk cars without all the third degree

what do the prices run for the rebuilds since you seem like the right guy to ask on this subject for sure. I really can't decide if i wanna keep the 13b rotary and tune it or just swap something completely different (small block maybe?) i wish it wasn't going to be snowing in a few days so i could have a little more time with my baby
Old 11-16-11, 04:23 PM
  #44  
Sharp Claws

iTrader: (30)
 
RotaryEvolution's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 5,107
Likes: 0
Received 41 Likes on 40 Posts
what i wrote was more for everyone to understand that to receive you often have to give in exchange. knowing that when these oil seals fail they crack into many pieces, the additives must use a filler to close the gaps, the filler obviously has other negative effects. this can't be compared to a stiff rubber oil seal that can be made pliable again, when the rubber cracks, there is no magic fix that glues it back together again without cracking the motor apart.

you can lessen smoking to an extent by playing with the viscosity of the oil, warming up the car before taking it over a set amount of RPMs or just constantly stay out of the area when it smokes. but using additives, block sealers, etc usually causes other issues.

cheapest rebuild prices from an actual shop starts at about $1400 and goes up from there, if your core engine is in decent condition.

Last edited by RotaryEvolution; 11-16-11 at 04:25 PM.
Old 11-16-11, 05:18 PM
  #45  
Rotary $ > AMG $

iTrader: (7)
 
jackhild59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: And the horse he rode in on...
Posts: 3,783
Received 24 Likes on 23 Posts
Originally Posted by Karack
anyways, cut him a little bit of slack. most everyone knows i rub everyone the wrong way sooner or later.

No



Yes
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
86glxNA
New Member RX-7 Technical
7
08-22-15 08:54 PM
pzr2
General Rotary Tech Support
1
08-15-15 08:29 PM
rx7jocke
Single Turbo RX-7's
1
08-15-15 03:36 PM



Quick Reply: Your engine SMOKE? Try Napa Engine Seal



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:46 PM.