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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 04:16 AM
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Thumbs up Your engine SMOKE? Try Napa Engine Seal

I Swear by this stuff. It gave my engine a new lease on life...
http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/a...ENGINESEAL.jpg

Lately my Second Gen started smoking.. BAD. Im talking at cruise on the freeway.
the only way i could Reduce the smoke was to Put it In Neutral and coast Then speed up. If The engine sat at the same RPM it would smoke...

So Under Load speeding up Engine smoked less. then just Holding speed.

NOW I tried Marvel Mystery Oil. never did what this Napa Engine seal Did..

It 95% fixed my problem.. Sure it still will smoke if i hold 7 grand. But it has tottaly Killed my Smoke from idle start up and cruising on the freeway. Even Holding 4k or 5k on the freeway.

It should have ROTARY REPAIR WRITTEN ON IT.....

If you're Oil control rings are 100% Toast i would not count on this working. But it sure saved my ***.. And i will be Writing Napa or the makers of this stuff soon..

I did this Last summer and held for 10 or more months.. GOOD STUFF
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 04:50 AM
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Part Number 095339

http://www.crcindustries.com/auto/co...x?PN=05339&S=Y

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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 05:06 AM
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thanks for the tip, I'll have to see if this will do anything about my toasted turbo oil seals.
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 05:13 AM
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 06:08 AM
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Remember, You can try Stop smoke, HOWEVER its aimed at piston engines and Piston engines smoke because of the Piston Oil retainer/Valve guides. And its not made of the same material as Oil control rings for the rotary.. So stop smoke may not help with the parts on the rotary that need help;;

So This is why i went with a rubber seal conditioner So that it would help the seal for the rotary that smokes...
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 07:28 AM
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There is also a product that is aimed at rear main seals that works well too. It is by no means a fix however, it does seem to soften up the old, brittle control rings.
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 09:30 AM
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Any long term negative effects? (ex: clogged OMP lines, etc.)
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 09:29 PM
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Any long term negative effects? (ex: clogged OMP lines, etc.)
No clogs that i ever saw. I started using last summer. Omp lines still pump oil
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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 12:38 AM
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Was your car n/a or turbo? And do you know what was causing your car to smoke?
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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 12:01 PM
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Im not positive but IIRC all that stuff that you add to your oil to stop leaks and smoking etc. All it does is thockin up the oil so that the viscosity is higher so that way it won't leak past ur seals into the combustion chamber as easy. It's not a fix, it js makes ur oil thick like malasis
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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by alex91n/a
Im not positive but IIRC all that stuff that you add to your oil to stop leaks and smoking etc. All it does is thockin up the oil so that the viscosity is higher so that way it won't leak past ur seals into the combustion chamber as easy. It's not a fix, it js makes ur oil thick like malasis
No... Not this stuff. This stuff conditions the Rubber oil control rings...

I tried the Thicker oil. thinner oil. Thick oil made it worse. and oil pressure was higher. I just didn't have luck with thickening up oil. CRC makes good stuff.. Its not an oil thickener. This stuff is as thin as oil if not thinner
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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 06:15 PM
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That stuff is the same as the additives in 'High Mileage Oils'. The conditioners are intended to slightly swell the seals, theoretically compensating for wear. Obviously, this will affect different seals in different ways depending on the composition of the particular seal.

The effect is very mild and I don't think there is anything to lose with this type of product.

You won't find much detail about these products. They are very much in the category of 'Magic-Hope-in-a-Bottle'.
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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 07:14 PM
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Ok so it's not js thickener, well that's good I've seen my friends dump that malasis like stuff in their engine and I js think face palm!!
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamRuffRacing
Was your car n/a or turbo? And do you know what was causing your car to smoke?
Its an NA, So yes i know why its smoking.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by alex91n/a
Im not positive but IIRC all that stuff that you add to your oil to stop leaks and smoking etc. All it does is thockin up the oil so that the viscosity is higher so that way it won't leak past ur seals into the combustion chamber as easy. It's not a fix, it js makes ur oil thick like malasis
Actually the opposite is true. The additive makes the oil slightly thinner when added.
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rx7_FREAKKK
Its an NA, So yes i know why its smoking.
why was it smoking?!? i just bought a '87 RX7 and it does the same thing! will try the nappa though
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 07:02 PM
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why was it smoking?!? i just bought a '87 RX7 and it does the same thing! will try the nappa though
The flux capacitor blew a seal.

Oil control o-rings (seals).
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 07:11 PM
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Wow..Rebuild in a Can.
who'd a thunk it?
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MIDNFauciUSN
The flux capacitor blew a seal.

Oil control o-rings (seals).
did you check the specs on the rotary girder?!


is it a very hard repair to figure out?


i'm so excited to get this thing fixed up a bit
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 07:59 PM
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My car would hafta be quite a shitbox on its way to the junkyard before Id put that crap in my oil.
Ive bought a few rotarys where some ******* dumped some tiger **** in the coolant and or oil and its very irritating to clean the results up.

Do you guys buy that stuff that makes your weiner bigger too
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by gregw
my car would hafta be quite a shitbox on its way to the junkyard before id put that crap in my oil.
Ive bought a few rotarys where some ******* dumped some tiger **** in the coolant and or oil and its very irritating to clean the results up.

Do you guys buy that stuff that makes your weiner bigger too
+1 lol
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Do you guys buy that stuff that makes your weiner bigger too
Ya,but if ya had to apply it manually,wouldn't it make your Hand bigger too?..we could call ya Lefty!..Right?
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I just don't believe that anything IN a can can take the place of a Mechanic.
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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by NightShift3
did you check the specs on the rotary girder?!


is it a very hard repair to figure out?


i'm so excited to get this thing fixed up a bit
If you have to ask...

Its a rebuild. Not difficult, but time consuming... can be done in a couple days if you're good. Unless its a turbo, then there may be some hope for you.
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 08:38 AM
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Just like A/C leak sealer, coolant stop leak, and oil leak stop, while they may produce some results, there are usually side effects of using these "can-o-fix's".


Snake oil....
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by alex91n/a
Im not positive but IIRC all that stuff that you add to your oil to stop leaks and smoking etc. All it does is thockin up the oil so that the viscosity is higher so that way it won't leak past ur seals into the combustion chamber as easy. It's not a fix, it js makes ur oil thick like malasis
Go read the back of a few different stop leaks, including napa brand. Some include paraffin (wax) in the list of ingredients. It seeps into the leaks and hardens on the outside edge of the leak to block the leak basically, im sure it's more involved than that but that's the basic gist, wax seals the leak. It also has a tendency to clog passages. Read the napa bottle really careful it says that you need to change your oil 1000 miles after adding it or it will seal your filter to the pedestal.
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