Why PD thread closed only now?
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Why PD thread closed only now?
Nice timing...
I had written a huge technical reply to the whole thing, and it just gotten eaten cause the thread happen to close before I hit submit.
So why was the thread kept open for over 12 hours until now?
I guess attacking ME is not enough to close a thread, but when I reply (not even slightly out of control) it gets immediately closed?
Oh don't even tell me cause you only logged on now, cause I know you are on here more than I am, and you were definitely on within the 12 hours the thread was open.
What a waste of time...
I had written a huge technical reply to the whole thing, and it just gotten eaten cause the thread happen to close before I hit submit.
So why was the thread kept open for over 12 hours until now?
I guess attacking ME is not enough to close a thread, but when I reply (not even slightly out of control) it gets immediately closed?
Oh don't even tell me cause you only logged on now, cause I know you are on here more than I am, and you were definitely on within the 12 hours the thread was open.
What a waste of time...
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Don't take this as an insult please. I personally have found that sometimes arguing and/or even replying is a waste of time on this forum. I usually take satifaction in knowing my way works and leave it at that. Or laugh at the rediculous stuff to myself and go to bed.
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Oh do bless us with it...
And to answer your question, about hp in relation to smartness, thats not the argument and not what I was getting it, the point of that is, the conditions that you have operated your car and thus your fuel system at, are no where near the conditions I operate mine at, consider the amount of fuel moving to put down a 150 or more that what you have observed, and tell me the conditions are goiing to be the same..
While we are at it, you are missing half the info here... I really suggest you go and read some of the material I posted earlier, not only does the harmonic dynamics ruin fuel system components, it causes adjacent injectors to have different flow rates and input pressures, even if you had an egt in the tailpipe in such a situation ,it wouldn't tell you jack **** about what goiing on in the fuel rail, you could be drowning one rotor, while starving another, and add to that, that the injector flow might not be different all the time, perhaps only for combustion cycle out of perhaps 200, if the rail harmonic occurred at a certain pulse width for a give pressure, you could have perfect egt's perfect a/f's , and the POP.... that one event, with one good detonation event, and its all over...
I was thinking about the aeromotive using their pressure sensing diaphragm as a pulsation aborber, thats not a good plan either, its very difficult to maintain a give inlet pressure with pulsations beating the diaphragm...I did find in Turbo magazine that alot of the pro import racers, use the aeromotive regulators, and alot of them also have marren pulsation dampener as well...
In the end, you do what you want... I am building it right this time around..max
And to answer your question, about hp in relation to smartness, thats not the argument and not what I was getting it, the point of that is, the conditions that you have operated your car and thus your fuel system at, are no where near the conditions I operate mine at, consider the amount of fuel moving to put down a 150 or more that what you have observed, and tell me the conditions are goiing to be the same..
While we are at it, you are missing half the info here... I really suggest you go and read some of the material I posted earlier, not only does the harmonic dynamics ruin fuel system components, it causes adjacent injectors to have different flow rates and input pressures, even if you had an egt in the tailpipe in such a situation ,it wouldn't tell you jack **** about what goiing on in the fuel rail, you could be drowning one rotor, while starving another, and add to that, that the injector flow might not be different all the time, perhaps only for combustion cycle out of perhaps 200, if the rail harmonic occurred at a certain pulse width for a give pressure, you could have perfect egt's perfect a/f's , and the POP.... that one event, with one good detonation event, and its all over...
I was thinking about the aeromotive using their pressure sensing diaphragm as a pulsation aborber, thats not a good plan either, its very difficult to maintain a give inlet pressure with pulsations beating the diaphragm...I did find in Turbo magazine that alot of the pro import racers, use the aeromotive regulators, and alot of them also have marren pulsation dampener as well...
In the end, you do what you want... I am building it right this time around..max
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Sure, the theory that a single EGT probe watching both rotors is a sound one.
How about running dual EGT probes, one for each rotor and very close to the exhaust port? Or does the reversion screw that up?
To "drown" the leaning rotor with the opposite rotor running too rich takes a big differential. Unless you're got a serious problem with your fuel system, it is very unlikely that will happen.
You can run the engine slightly lean and not hurt anything. We've run engines over 200F what was deemed safe EGT temps, and the engine is still running.
Complications to fuel injectors is always going to affect fuel delivery. It's going to show up on the EGT. If the fuel injector locks up, wouldn't it tend to lock open and dump a shitload of fuel into the engine all of a sudden? Or are you talking about locking them closed? Care to explain how the fuel injector locks close, unless the resonances happened to close them?
-Ted
How about running dual EGT probes, one for each rotor and very close to the exhaust port? Or does the reversion screw that up?
To "drown" the leaning rotor with the opposite rotor running too rich takes a big differential. Unless you're got a serious problem with your fuel system, it is very unlikely that will happen.
You can run the engine slightly lean and not hurt anything. We've run engines over 200F what was deemed safe EGT temps, and the engine is still running.
Complications to fuel injectors is always going to affect fuel delivery. It's going to show up on the EGT. If the fuel injector locks up, wouldn't it tend to lock open and dump a shitload of fuel into the engine all of a sudden? Or are you talking about locking them closed? Care to explain how the fuel injector locks close, unless the resonances happened to close them?
-Ted
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Re: Why PD thread closed only now?
Originally posted by RETed
Nice timing...
I had written a huge technical reply to the whole thing, and it just gotten eaten cause the thread happen to close before I hit submit.
So why was the thread kept open for over 12 hours until now?
I guess attacking ME is not enough to close a thread, but when I reply (not even slightly out of control) it gets immediately closed?
Oh don't even tell me cause you only logged on now, cause I know you are on here more than I am, and you were definitely on within the 12 hours the thread was open.
What a waste of time...
Nice timing...
I had written a huge technical reply to the whole thing, and it just gotten eaten cause the thread happen to close before I hit submit.
So why was the thread kept open for over 12 hours until now?
I guess attacking ME is not enough to close a thread, but when I reply (not even slightly out of control) it gets immediately closed?
Oh don't even tell me cause you only logged on now, cause I know you are on here more than I am, and you were definitely on within the 12 hours the thread was open.
What a waste of time...
Looking at the thread the mod that closed it used this reason:
Thread closed. I said no personal arguments.
Last edited by Icemark; 05-27-04 at 09:28 PM.
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Thread was closed not because of Ted. It just so happened that it was closed after one of Ted's posts. I closed it because both Max and Ted had turned it into a personal argument.
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