Who has build a motor themselves?
01-30-07, 05:29 PM
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Who has build a motor themselves?
Just want to get an idea of who has put a rotary motor together themselves.
How hard would you say it was?
How well did you do it?
Would you do it again?
How hard would you say it was?
How well did you do it?
Would you do it again?
01-30-07, 06:10 PM
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well i've havent build a motor but i would say its going to be easier than a piston one. i was trying to get a turbo motor for cheap and going to do a rebuild and probably street port and also paint the engine too..but i would think the only hard part about the build is the tools. correct me if im wrong
01-30-07, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Hepcat1920
Just want to get an idea of who has put a rotary motor together themselves.
How hard would you say it was?
How well did you do it?
Would you do it again?
How hard would you say it was?
How well did you do it?
Would you do it again?
I dont mean to question your technical abilities or expert knowledge of the 13B but there are a lot of details in a rebuild that require experience and knowledge in order to achieve the best results. Could you put together a rebuilt engine and get it running? With some research and time absolutely! Will it be the best running longest lasting engine you can put together? Probably not.
I recommend finding someone near you that was the experience to help you do a rebuild. First off they will help you identify which parts absolutely need to be replaced and what parts do not need to be replaced. This is very important, its hard to tell on your first engine what parts are good and will last another 80K and what parts should just be tossed and in the case of rotors and housing that can be a difference of either a lot of miles or a lot of money. So really you need someone who has rebuild an engine to help you decide what needs to be replaced and what doesnt, so you can A. Not waste any money on parts you dont need, and B. Get as much life out of your rebuild as possible. Along with parts, tools, space and a lot of other factors really mean you might want someone who has been through it all to help you along.
A good friend of mine always said " Never try anything youve never done by yourself the first time " - Its an idea ive always followed and its never really let me down.
Good Luck!
01-30-07, 06:27 PM
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I rebuilt my own. Do lots of research first. Pick up some video, ex; atkins, and DIY-RE. Make sure you take your time. Porting isnt that bad, find a **** iron, and pratice first, pick up a porting template from say racing beat. I would totally do it again, there are things you will want to change after the rebuild, or do different. Its just a natural learning process, take your time, and have fun.
01-30-07, 06:28 PM
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Nice quote
Nice quote!
I have not ever put one together myself, but I am astonished at the amount of self work this forum seems to do, I did a search for difficulty and found nothing, so for my personal curiosity figured I'd ask and see who had and hasn't and what they thought. Thanks for your comments!!! Keep 'em coming!
I have not ever put one together myself, but I am astonished at the amount of self work this forum seems to do, I did a search for difficulty and found nothing, so for my personal curiosity figured I'd ask and see who had and hasn't and what they thought. Thanks for your comments!!! Keep 'em coming!
01-30-07, 06:50 PM
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Order this video: http://www.atkinsrotary.com/store/cu...95&cat=0&page=
01-30-07, 06:58 PM
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The best recommendation I could give you is to NOT do it yourself.
I dont mean to question your technical abilities or expert knowledge of the 13B but there are a lot of details in a rebuild that require experience and knowledge in order to achieve the best results. Could you put together a rebuilt engine and get it running? With some research and time absolutely! Will it be the best running longest lasting engine you can put together? Probably not.
I recommend finding someone near you that was the experience to help you do a rebuild. First off they will help you identify which parts absolutely need to be replaced and what parts do not need to be replaced. This is very important, its hard to tell on your first engine what parts are good and will last another 80K and what parts should just be tossed and in the case of rotors and housing that can be a difference of either a lot of miles or a lot of money. So really you need someone who has rebuild an engine to help you decide what needs to be replaced and what doesnt, so you can A. Not waste any money on parts you dont need, and B. Get as much life out of your rebuild as possible. Along with parts, tools, space and a lot of other factors really mean you might want someone who has been through it all to help you along.
A good friend of mine always said " Never try anything youve never done by yourself the first time " - Its an idea ive always followed and its never really let me down.
Good Luck!
I dont mean to question your technical abilities or expert knowledge of the 13B but there are a lot of details in a rebuild that require experience and knowledge in order to achieve the best results. Could you put together a rebuilt engine and get it running? With some research and time absolutely! Will it be the best running longest lasting engine you can put together? Probably not.
I recommend finding someone near you that was the experience to help you do a rebuild. First off they will help you identify which parts absolutely need to be replaced and what parts do not need to be replaced. This is very important, its hard to tell on your first engine what parts are good and will last another 80K and what parts should just be tossed and in the case of rotors and housing that can be a difference of either a lot of miles or a lot of money. So really you need someone who has rebuild an engine to help you decide what needs to be replaced and what doesnt, so you can A. Not waste any money on parts you dont need, and B. Get as much life out of your rebuild as possible. Along with parts, tools, space and a lot of other factors really mean you might want someone who has been through it all to help you along.
A good friend of mine always said " Never try anything youve never done by yourself the first time " - Its an idea ive always followed and its never really let me down.
Good Luck!
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01-30-07, 06:59 PM
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I am at the tail end of rebuilding my first 13b. I did about 6 months of research before I felt comfortable tearing it open and going at it. I have a lot of experience with piston engines and I found that once you understand the rotary, it's much easier to work on and rebuild. Almost all of the rebuild is cleaning, cleaning and more cleaning. If you are going to attempt it, you must buy a rebuild video. Do not try it without a video. It is the best investment you can make towards a good rebuild.
Overall, I would say it's worth trying if you think you consider yourself decent with engines(i.e. change your own oil, brakes, waterpump, maybe a headgasket or two...) Also, be prepared to buy the correct tools. Jobs are so much easier with the right tool.
Take you time, label things, take pictures, be organized!
Brian
Overall, I would say it's worth trying if you think you consider yourself decent with engines(i.e. change your own oil, brakes, waterpump, maybe a headgasket or two...) Also, be prepared to buy the correct tools. Jobs are so much easier with the right tool.
Take you time, label things, take pictures, be organized!
Brian
01-30-07, 07:08 PM
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Its not that hard! Once you rebuild it and it fires up......well theres nothing quite like that feeling! A day you will never forget! Good luck!
01-31-07, 04:55 AM
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If you think u will do it only once, leave it to someone experienced....
But if you feel like doing it every month, go ahead and learn....with every rebuild you get smarter and better and after doing 20th engine, you wont see anything hard on it (except getting all parts clean
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But if you feel like doing it every month, go ahead and learn....with every rebuild you get smarter and better and after doing 20th engine, you wont see anything hard on it (except getting all parts clean
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01-31-07, 06:51 AM
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I have to rebuild my own. The closest shop to me is kevins and I just dont have the means to get and engine to TN. Dosnt mean I wouldt like someone else doing it, I just cant lol.
The videos really help ALOT ALOT. I wouldnt do my first rebuild without them and a good manual. Just take things slow read and watch as much as you can and itll be all good.
The videos really help ALOT ALOT. I wouldnt do my first rebuild without them and a good manual. Just take things slow read and watch as much as you can and itll be all good.
01-31-07, 07:41 AM
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Read up on this forum, order the video mentioned before, and give it a shot. If you mess it up, so be it. Humans have been using trial and error since the beginning of time and we've made it thus far. Ignore the people that are telling you not to because you've never done it before.
There's also nothing better than feeling a sense of self-satisfaction from a job well done.
Hate to break it to you, but your friend is a f*cking idiot. By his philosophy, he's still a virgin that lives in his parents house. I mean... if he's never had sex, how can he try it himself? Or, if he's never lived on his own, how will he be able to? 
EVERYBODY has to start somewhere.
There's also nothing better than feeling a sense of self-satisfaction from a job well done.
Originally Posted by FCinMD
The best recommendation I could give you is to NOT do it yourself.
I dont mean to question your technical abilities or expert knowledge of the 13B but there are a lot of details in a rebuild that require experience and knowledge in order to achieve the best results. Could you put together a rebuilt engine and get it running? With some research and time absolutely! Will it be the best running longest lasting engine you can put together? Probably not.
I recommend finding someone near you that was the experience to help you do a rebuild. First off they will help you identify which parts absolutely need to be replaced and what parts do not need to be replaced. This is very important, its hard to tell on your first engine what parts are good and will last another 80K and what parts should just be tossed and in the case of rotors and housing that can be a difference of either a lot of miles or a lot of money. So really you need someone who has rebuild an engine to help you decide what needs to be replaced and what doesnt, so you can A. Not waste any money on parts you dont need, and B. Get as much life out of your rebuild as possible. Along with parts, tools, space and a lot of other factors really mean you might want someone who has been through it all to help you along.
A good friend of mine always said " Never try anything youve never done by yourself the first time " - Its an idea ive always followed and its never really let me down.
Good Luck!
I dont mean to question your technical abilities or expert knowledge of the 13B but there are a lot of details in a rebuild that require experience and knowledge in order to achieve the best results. Could you put together a rebuilt engine and get it running? With some research and time absolutely! Will it be the best running longest lasting engine you can put together? Probably not.
I recommend finding someone near you that was the experience to help you do a rebuild. First off they will help you identify which parts absolutely need to be replaced and what parts do not need to be replaced. This is very important, its hard to tell on your first engine what parts are good and will last another 80K and what parts should just be tossed and in the case of rotors and housing that can be a difference of either a lot of miles or a lot of money. So really you need someone who has rebuild an engine to help you decide what needs to be replaced and what doesnt, so you can A. Not waste any money on parts you dont need, and B. Get as much life out of your rebuild as possible. Along with parts, tools, space and a lot of other factors really mean you might want someone who has been through it all to help you along.
A good friend of mine always said " Never try anything youve never done by yourself the first time " - Its an idea ive always followed and its never really let me down.
Good Luck!
EVERYBODY has to start somewhere.
01-31-07, 09:02 AM
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Take a look at this topic:
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=374810
It covers the easy stuff (engine assembly) when building an engine. It's a complete walkthrough step-by-step. What it does not cover is the cleaning and inspection which is what takes up most of your time. As others have said, the various rebuild videos are a great investment.
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.php?t=374810
It covers the easy stuff (engine assembly) when building an engine. It's a complete walkthrough step-by-step. What it does not cover is the cleaning and inspection which is what takes up most of your time. As others have said, the various rebuild videos are a great investment.
01-31-07, 09:07 AM
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It took me 2 hours to build the rotors and 2 hours to build the engine when I first rebuilt my engine. Make sure to get 2 videos so you can watch watch they do different.
You can do it if you try. I bought 2 new rotor housings and a new front plate and a atkins full rebuild kit so my rebuild wasn't cheap. Your rebuild can be a cheap fix though.
I would do it again in a heartbeat. I am trying to find more engines to do so ^_^.
You can do it if you try. I bought 2 new rotor housings and a new front plate and a atkins full rebuild kit so my rebuild wasn't cheap. Your rebuild can be a cheap fix though.
I would do it again in a heartbeat. I am trying to find more engines to do so ^_^.
01-31-07, 09:21 AM
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I'm lucky in that Atkins Rotary is down the road from me. When I decided to rebuild my engine, I went down with all my parts and spent the day cleaning housings and prepping rotors. I came home and put together the sandwich in a couple hours.
Prep work is paramount. Assembly takes less skill
Prep work is paramount. Assembly takes less skill
01-31-07, 09:28 AM
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whats the avrage cost for this rebuild are we talking OEM specs? or with all thos tricks with other seals from other gens and stuf i just got an intrist in this
02-12-07, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by FCinMD
The best recommendation I could give you is to NOT do it yourself.
I dont mean to question your technical abilities or expert knowledge of the 13B but there are a lot of details in a rebuild that require experience and knowledge in order to achieve the best results. Could you put together a rebuilt engine and get it running? With some research and time absolutely! Will it be the best running longest lasting engine you can put together? Probably not.
I recommend finding someone near you that was the experience to help you do a rebuild. First off they will help you identify which parts absolutely need to be replaced and what parts do not need to be replaced. This is very important, its hard to tell on your first engine what parts are good and will last another 80K and what parts should just be tossed and in the case of rotors and housing that can be a difference of either a lot of miles or a lot of money. So really you need someone who has rebuild an engine to help you decide what needs to be replaced and what doesnt, so you can A. Not waste any money on parts you dont need, and B. Get as much life out of your rebuild as possible. Along with parts, tools, space and a lot of other factors really mean you might want someone who has been through it all to help you along.
A good friend of mine always said " Never try anything youve never done by yourself the first time " - Its an idea ive always followed and its never really let me down.
Good Luck!
I dont mean to question your technical abilities or expert knowledge of the 13B but there are a lot of details in a rebuild that require experience and knowledge in order to achieve the best results. Could you put together a rebuilt engine and get it running? With some research and time absolutely! Will it be the best running longest lasting engine you can put together? Probably not.
I recommend finding someone near you that was the experience to help you do a rebuild. First off they will help you identify which parts absolutely need to be replaced and what parts do not need to be replaced. This is very important, its hard to tell on your first engine what parts are good and will last another 80K and what parts should just be tossed and in the case of rotors and housing that can be a difference of either a lot of miles or a lot of money. So really you need someone who has rebuild an engine to help you decide what needs to be replaced and what doesnt, so you can A. Not waste any money on parts you dont need, and B. Get as much life out of your rebuild as possible. Along with parts, tools, space and a lot of other factors really mean you might want someone who has been through it all to help you along.
A good friend of mine always said " Never try anything youve never done by yourself the first time " - Its an idea ive always followed and its never really let me down.
Good Luck!
If you personally are afraid to try new things without someone holding your hand, thats fine, but dont encourage others to do the same.
I built my first motor with nothing more than a rebuild kit, the FSM, and info i got from this and other forums. It is actually one of the best motors i ever built, probably because it was my first one so I was super cautious and paid attention to every little detail.
As far as how easy it is to do, it is much easier than a piston motor if youve ever done that. There is no way you can get anything out of time or antyhing dumb like that. Just install all the seals correctly and bolt it up, torque it to the proper specs, and your ready to go. The actual assembly can be done in an hour or two. If you want to get into porting and stuff, then I'd say take your time and do it an hour at a time over a week or so, that way you dont get ahead of yourself. Search the forum, theres all kinds of good info on here...
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02-13-07, 01:33 AM
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ive done it and it was pretty easy. The hardest part is cleaning and porting. Also make sure u have a fsm or haynes and a rebuild video to get tips. I did pretty well, considering it started up when the timing was set and it takes all the abuse i can give it. I will do it again really soon as my friends motor just blew a coolant seal. If you do it, use all oem stuff and fd corner seal springs
02-13-07, 05:42 AM
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It really comes down to having the correct tools, a place to do it and most off all enough cash in case you mess it up and have to rebuild it again. We have seen numerous DIY rebuilds come ito the shop to be rebuilt, some lasted a few miles, some never started. It was always due to something that the DIYer overlooked or just did wrong.
After the first 5-10 engine builds it becomes very simple, after a few hundred you can do it in your sleep.
Best thing you can do is buy the DVD watch it a few times, then determine if it is something you think you can do. You will not be out any real money and you will be able to know what your builder is talking about when he/she mentions something specific. Then you can always sell the DVD....
After the first 5-10 engine builds it becomes very simple, after a few hundred you can do it in your sleep.
Best thing you can do is buy the DVD watch it a few times, then determine if it is something you think you can do. You will not be out any real money and you will be able to know what your builder is talking about when he/she mentions something specific. Then you can always sell the DVD....
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