my car still has original shocks from 86 and when i drive down the road i kinda wobble becuase the front left and back right are more shot than the other two.

ive been looking at these http://www.cardomain.com/item/KYB741025?vq_id=none + thinking tein type S.

 

I've used KYB's in the past and have really, really liked them--moreso than even my other set of Tokico Illuminas (which are supposed to be one of the best).

I've also used Tokico HP "blues" which are a pretty decent (and cheaper) non-adjustable. They're all over E-bay.

 

first off, dont ever consider KYB as an option for your suspension, their like the pacesetter of headders, or the pyle of in car tv's. ............complete junk

and second; cheap and good with car parts, are never to be put in unison in the same sentence. with only one exception i.e.(dont be CHEAP, save your money and buy something GOOD

if you cant afford quality, sell the 7, buy an eg hatch- ive seen to many rice7's

im not saying be a celebrituner.........................be tasteful, lets keep the second gen up there, as far away from


this as possiable

as for coil overs,

-jic magic a2's
-tien, im not familar with the type s
-cusco, hks, and i think amemiya made some pretty nasty coils back in the day

ne ways good luck with your shopping, a good suspension will serve more useful than most parts on this car

 

I loved my KYB's... Like I just said, moreso than Illuminas, which are right there quality-wise with Koni Yellows.

You'd be suprised what you can find for a good price if you just keep your eyes open... I definitely don't pay retail for 90% of all my FC-purchases.

 

dude im not a ****** ricer, im just poor and looking for some cheap shocks. if you really wanna know what ill be getting.... some day check these out http://www.tein.com/products/super_drift.html ... someday.
id like some more reviews on the kyb shocks if anyone has any exp w/them. idc if they are like the pacesetter of headers i just need to use them for a year or 2 as long as they work decent.

 

S-techs http://www.tein.com/products/s_tech.html buddy has them on his integra and they are pretty damn nice. and i think price range for a set would be 125-150

 

i never said not to take advantage of deal, i dont pay retail for much of my parts as well, i all for hunting for a great deal, like if you can pick up totl jic coils, for 150 and rebuild them to new, do it!

kyb has always been second rate, as has megan racings suspension products, i once owned a set of agx's, and sold them a week later, the pogo was obnixious, i did everthing i could think of to fix it, nothing worked.

and one of my buddies had his for a couple years, they leaked, and the mounting bracket broke on the track, if thats no junk i donno what is?

my 8 year old jic's have been rebuilt twice by myself, not for any other reason but to keep the in a+ condition.

you get what you pay for (in one way or another) or what the guy before you paid for.

 

just cuz it works for your buddies honda, dosent mean its good for your 7.

with just lowering springs, your geometry gets all kinds of mexican, the top mout plates of the stock suspension dosent mesh well with aftermarkt lowering springs, or camber plates for that matter, you will ware out the inner tread of your tires like whoa, and they will sit funny, and those nasty dimples will bulge in the rubber, unless you peice tougether struts, top plates, and springs.

in the end you will do what you want......but is the look really worth blowing your stock shocks and tires to ****, all to own a copy of vin desils car? think about it

pay to play, buy quality in its interity, short cuts will come back to **** you, in the butt

 

Well, I can agree that they aren't first-rate... But they're a damn good option for the money IMO. You've obviously known negative experiences, whereas I've had good. Granted I was running my KYB's in conjunction with RS*R "race" springs, which are the best springs around, but either way I absolutely loved the ride for a strut/spring combo.

 

idk if u had a bad day or if yur wife didnt give u any ***** tonight. idc im not a damn ricer. if u want to give me some advice id appreciate it without your ridicule.
never did i say i would get just the springs. im getting cheap shocks & cheap springs. TEIN isn't cheap though.

 

go yard hunting, locate 4 good 2ed gen shocks, buy them, if you dont have the power under the hood to notice the difference in handlening, it wont matter yet.

band aid the problem until you have got the means to fully repair it.

whats wrong with the suspension you currrently?

o ya and expect to be much more poor now that you have a 7

o and btw, if u wanna diy, find a shock insert from koni that fits the housing of the 2ed gen shock and gut it and assemble the ne insert in the body, all you would need is a drill and a welder, i works quiet well for cheap.

i built a set useing koni inserts from a 95 sho, and made 8 way adjustables for my gtp, way cheap

 

lol my bad man, actually i left her 2 weeks ago, and its 6:42 here and im drunk of my *** unually early on account of getting fired yesturday. im not callin u a ricer, im just trying to prevent it with scare tactics.

i thought the coffe can was funny?

tien is a very good choice

 

tokico blues my friend.

 

yeah i live in WI and its like the rice is grown in the fields here. seeing u are from MI its probably similar.

 

you wouldent belive it, stratutitus is a new milignant cancer, spreads through sight.

along with the ever now popular 350 swap in the caviler

now to mention the scions with the backwards greddy decals scaleing the whole car with a aluminum wing.

im ready to gun down the whole block.

and my favorite, thr "insert rice here" stickers on low displacement demostics above the gas door.

i need to move

 

You better get your facts straight before sticking your foot in your mouth.
KYB or Kayaba industries is one of the largest damper manufacturers in Japan.
They design and build both OEM and aftermarket lines of shocks.
Tokico is probably the other big Japan damper manufacturer.
KYB aftermarket lines include the Gas-A-Just, GR-2, and AGX series.
The Gas-A-Just and GR-2 are OEM replacement level damper - this is probably what you're thinking about, but they are NOT crap; both are quality *OEM REPLACEMENT* dampers - don't get this confused with upgrade / performance units.
Currently, the KYB AGX is one of the BEST, IMNSHO, bang-for-the-buck drop-in damper for the FC3S, period.
To call any of them "complete junk" is a serious bout of ignorance on your part.


Funny you mention all particular brands...
MOST...if not all...of them are RICE parts.
Don't confuse them with serious race parts.
If you want serious race parts, go look up Koni, JRZ, and Moton.


-Ted

 

^ hehe he said rice, how nice

 

i think its the midwest in general buddy. gayest thing i see everywhere are those retarded chrome taillights, some may like them i dont.

http://www.cardomain.com/item/TOKHU3633?vq_id=none
these are the blues right? bc they are hella cheap

 

ignorance huh?

i guess thats why these manufactures have many comp. proven designs.

if my foot i in mouth, yours in in your ***

koni cant touch BILSTEIN's quality

contest this and look at what most f1 cars run---- not koni

if you want all out domination, you will mill them your self.

with the ticket on hks, cusco, and tiens higher end products, hardly what your avarage high school/college ricer with a honda can afford.

these are not ricer products, i stand buy my words KYB=junk

if you run them more power to you.

i do agree there will always be a market for there products, not every one need $4000 shocks

take a look at the manufactuers that where the founders of off track street tuneing, hks, trd, nismo, amemiya, cusco

its blasphmus to call there products rice, their products are the reason for conception of countless counter-parts, many not worth the box its shipped in.

those cheap, lowly, counter-parts are the reason for the explosion of f+f, and inital d wannab's.

not to mention the t.v. contracts makeing a mockary of a true passion and sport.

now; unfortunately, we are looked apon as kilches from movies like tokyo drift, takeing it from undergroung to main stream, where it shouldent be

apc, kyb, megan, afforadable replica body kits, fart cans, and paul walker, i hope you have a slow death.

this should have stayed exclisive, after all d1 gp is a joke

(edit) just bc kyb may be the largest damber manufacter, dosent mean its the best ((i.e. 13b=1.3, ls1=6.0)) you can pull just as much power outta an engine more than 4 times less the displacement.

 

Bilstein doesn't make a drop-in shock for the FC3S.


Don't get confused with F1 versus what us daily drivers need...
If this is the case, why aren't we all running BRIDGESTONE tires?
Your argument sucks.

You still need the KNOWLEDGE to know what the **** you are doing.

I still call their **** RICE.


Ignorance is bliss.
See below.


Funny...
TRD used to use both KYB and Tokico dampers.
R.E. Amemiya is rebadged Trust / GReddy.
Trust / GReddy is rebadged Cusco.
Cusco uses KYB internals.
Feel stupid now?


http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets6.html
READ THIS PAGE.


No, it just means I'd rather trust them than some dumbass who doesn't know what the **** they are talking about...
Oh yeah, if you didn't get the hint, that dumbass who doesn't know what the **** they are talking about is you.

Read the above link before you go mouthing off again.
Shock dyno doesn't lie.
It's the most objective test for comparing dampers.
Unless you got something logical to comment on the above link, I'd suggest you shut the **** up.


-Ted

 

I sell KYB at my full time job and lets be serious they are a GREAT quality shock... I have a buddy who runs the AGX in his auto X 1st gen 7 and they are nice and stiff...

I have another friend who runs the kyb GR2 with a lowering spring on his Datsun 240Z (with a turbo L28 swap) and he autoX and does finaminal (sp).

I plan to run the AGX.. I have compared them side by side with koni and for the price the AGX is WELL worth the coin..

the GR2 is 25% stiffer then stock however it give a stock ride feel it is a great every day shock..

Now u want to compare bilstein. lol they dont even make shocks/struts for our cars .

The shop I work at use to be a direct seller for Koni... WE DROPPED THEM.. we had many com backs on the fact that the shocks prematurly failed.. on the KYB AGX we get none and not only that but almost any KYB shop (store that carries KYB) will return them if they do go bad because they will get a full refund anyways (weather u bought then there or not)

Tein is a good company.

Cusco is taiwan or turkey or some crap however I like there design

Lets compare apples to apples.... KYB to KONI.... for the price KYB is a great product

 

k now we are getting somewhere. ive pretty much decided o0n the tein s-techs+ kyb agx setup. now anyone know the best place to buy them bc stupid cardomain doesn't even have the front right so i would need to find it elsewhere.

 

I bought my AGX's off ebay... I paid less than $350 shipped for all 4 like 4 months ago.

 

it said nothing of he supriority of the KYB design any where in that article.

it however was a good read.

as for those who say bilstien dosent make products for the fc, your right,

but they also do not make ls1's, 20b's, and a flat bed diamand plate truck bed for rx7's either.

its called work.

you can sourse the needed parts to make a complete bilstien (f1 worthy) set up for about as much as a set of new top of the line cuscos, or hks coils, that make tuneing effective and the ground patch unsurpassed by conventional means.

any thing can be built with a few tools and brains.

just cuz they dont fit of the shelf dosent mean you cant make something bad ***, with a bit of math and time.

gr2's roughly 10% increace in performance(not aweful)-match those with lowering springs, your geometry is all fucked up.

AGX- 8 way adjustability is nothing but a joke, a cool **** to brag about-FAIL

for the avarage enthusist these are par, but for those seeking real gain, all mathmatics, one off style weight matched perfection is the goal.

as for your statements of rebagged this and insert that, i will have to make a call to a buddy of mine at nukabe/cusco to validate your points for my self.

and fyi, i run bridgestones daily, and hoosier's weekends/track days on rims that weigh between 17.5-10lbs

overdoing it mabey but i like the results

ill make shure to pm you photos of my suspension system when its complete, im shure you will have nothing to say but DDDDDDDDDDDAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNN

 

dont go AGX for the love of all thats great. tokikos ftw if your on a budget, and dont go to low on springs, .6" at the most with out changeing the mounting locations of a few things, your tires and wallet will thank you later.