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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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What the hell is it

Could someone please tell me what this is. Im putting in my rebuilt motor and dont know what connects there or if i can just block it off or not. It is on the backside of the lim. Thanks
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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Isn't that a coolant line for the heater core? Also the infamous hose that always breaks becuase of the oil pedastal just above it?
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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If its inthe back of the LIM, it should be the connecting pipe to the air tube that feeds the cat or out to the air muffler
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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what year and is it on the engine or what I don't know what the LIM is sorry
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by NeCr0mStR
what year and is it on the engine or what I don't know what the LIM is sorry
Then why respond?

There should be nothing on the LIM. The only thing it could be is as posted split air pipe from the ACV.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dirttracker64
Could someone please tell me what this is.
What did you take off it?
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 11:19 PM
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Pipe for the auto trans????
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 11:36 PM
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Its not even part of the intake assembly.... When looking at drawings the heavy lines are whats being depicted. The faded lines 'could' be part of the engine, the firewall or some other part of the vehicle.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 11:45 PM
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Looks to me like the Heater core hose. Coming out of the firewall.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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Its an s5 engine with an s4 intake and by back side i meant the side facing the fire wall. i dont have any extra hoses to hook up to it so i dont know if the previous owner just took it off and kept it that way
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 01:13 PM
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The picture shows the PD on the front so its an n/a im assuming. Seems like its the metal line that comes off the LIM to the brake booster if i'm not mistaken. If you have one for the booster already I'd say just the others with the heater core coming out from the dash.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 11:53 PM
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Jeez this thread is frustrating. I don’t have an NA so I'm not sure what it is but I can tell you that it is on the LIM (you can see it clearly in several FSM pictures) and it is not a heater hose (their connections are nowhere near the LIM). My guess would be brake booster, but surely someone with an NA can just go out to their car and look? How hard is that?
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 12:12 AM
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split air
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by NZConvertible
Jeez this thread is frustrating. I don’t have an NA so I'm not sure what it is but I can tell you that it is on the LIM (you can see it clearly in several FSM pictures) and it is not a heater hose (their connections are nowhere near the LIM). My guess would be brake booster, but surely someone with an NA can just go out to their car and look? How hard is that?
I just tore one down to rebuild it the other day. The only thing I remember on the lim was the ACV same as turbo and the 6pt.

I assume the photo is showing the pipe from the ACV.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 12:21 AM
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^^^ he speaks the truth
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by NZConvertible
Jeez this thread is frustrating. I don’t have an NA so I'm not sure what it is but I can tell you that it is on the LIM (you can see it clearly in several FSM pictures) and it is not a heater hose (their connections are nowhere near the LIM). My guess would be brake booster, but surely someone with an NA can just go out to their car and look? How hard is that?
On the S4 N/A intake manifolds, the ACV dumps the air to the cat through the intake manifold at that nipple. That nipple comes out of the back of the LIM as shown and connects to a piece of rubber pipe, which connects to the catalytic convertor via a pipe with a check valve on the end.

Its not the brake booster line.
Its not the coolant line.

We know its an S4 N/A... look at the EGR valve located on the center iron.
Look at the ACV valve... Hose going into the ACV from the air pump, but no hose coming out of the ACV.

On the S4 turbo models, the air also travels through the LIM, but there is no nipple. In its place is a flange mounted pipe, mounted on the back edge of the runners. The EGR valve on the turbos is located where this pipe is shown.


Answer: Its the split air pipe which connects to the catalytic convertor on an S4 N/A only.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by iceblue
The only thing I remember on the lim was the ACV same as turbo and the 6pt.
Your memory is failing you.
There are 3 different S4 ACV's.
The N/A manual trans, the N/A auto trans, and the turbo.

To go even further, the turbo ACV's have a different bolt pattern than the N/A ones.

They are completely different units.

You are right, though, that this is a pipe from the ACV... its just not connected to the ACV. Its connected to the LIM.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 12:52 AM
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incase someone reads it, i know na and turbo acv are diff, im not stupid...

i was refering to...
I assume the photo is showing the pipe from the ACV.
i said that was correct

ok thxbye
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by scathcart
We know its an S4 N/A... look at the EGR valve located on the center iron.
Actually that picture is from page F1-4 of the S5 FSM, which incorrectly shows the EGR valve (with no label). So either both S4 and S5 engines have the same split air nipple or it's another mistake.

Great to see and answer finally!
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 01:23 AM
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looks like the ABS thing
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 09:03 AM
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Im asuming that this was responsible for supplying the actuators with the back pressure needed. But i dont have the auxilary system set up so is this just gonna create a vacuum leak if it is not pluged up

Or i could be completly wrong about what its for.... i just need to know whether or not its gonna create problems with starting up the engine

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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 10:42 AM
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It WILL NOT create problems when starting up the car. I ran without it for a long while. It DOES create a vac leak, but it's only about 90-125 RPM worth of a vac leak.

Go to Advance Auto or NAPA, and look for a normally *very* small display of "HELP" brand products. Get the biggest cap they sell, called the "Bypass Cap" --- It is a perfect fit. Little bit of RTV on the nipple, cap on, and a clamp.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by dirttracker64
Im asuming that this was responsible for supplying the actuators with the back pressure needed. But i dont have the auxilary system set up so is this just gonna create a vacuum leak if it is not pluged up

Or i could be completly wrong about what its for.... i just need to know whether or not its gonna create problems with starting up the engine
If you are not runing the stock 6pi and you do not have emissions or wanting to run the AWS system just remove and block off the ACV. Other words cap it.

After the thread is awnserd we get this useless post.
Originally Posted by DriftingB26RX7
looks like the ABS thing
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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Bunch of dummiies. It's where you connect the brake booster feed. Different than a turbo feed tube. Noooooobies all.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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Bunch of dummiies. It's where you connect the brake booster feed. Different than a turbo feed tube. Noooooobies all.
Uhm... No.
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