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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 12:54 PM
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What to do before I start engine for the first time?

Hey Guys, Im a newbie here, but I've had a little experience with RX-7's over the years.

Anyway, I picked up an 89 Turbo II with a blown engine about 4 months ago. Prior to that, it had been sitting blown for about 3 months or so. I pulled out the old engine, bought a rebuild from Pineapple Racing, and replaced a bunch of parts. Well just the other day I dropped the new engine in, and got everything hooked up *I believe*

I wanted to get an idea of all the things I needed to make sure I had done before I try and crank the engine over. Im just talking the things that will ruin the engine if I try to start it without them.

Obviously I need

Oil
Coolant
Fuel
Fan?

Mostly worried about it overheating and not getting lubed up, but is there anything else?

The gas has been sitting in the tank for probly 7 months now. Is there any problem with using that gas or should I cyphen it and put some new stuff in there?

Also, how do I go about adjusting the timing. There are 2 marks on the main pulley. A red and yellow one. Also I guess I have to adjust the crank angle sensor. Can anyone give me a rundown on how to do this so I don't cause any detonation in my engine?

Theres alot of other stuff that I'll have to do once I get it running (bleed the brakes, reattach all the electricals, etc.) but I just need the basis for what I need to start it up so I can make sure it will run.

Thanks for helpin a newbie!
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 01:05 PM
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Best bet is to drop the gas tank and clean it real good. When I did this to my NA I just poured a bottle of rubbing alcohol in the tank before starting it.
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 01:57 PM
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you probably gota wait a few hundred miles before the timming. it won't hold a good idle for a little while.

as for starting. pull the egi fuse it. and crank it for a good 30 secs or so. get the oil moving without starting it.
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 02:10 PM
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On a note that came with the engine it said something like "Do Not Crank Engine Without The Intent To Start"

Would cranking it like that hurt it?
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 02:43 PM
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ok, then don't pull the fuse out...
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 03:11 PM
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Ok.

And for timing. Just line the CAS back where it was and let it go?
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by Weezle
Ok.

And for timing. Just line the CAS back where it was and let it go?
once the engine is broken in enought to hold a soild 750 idle. you will need a timming light to set it.
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 04:43 PM
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Might be a little late now, but you did replavce that crappy thermal pellet with one that doesnt bypass oil?
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 04:44 PM
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Thermal Pellet? I've never heard of anything. Can you explain it to me? I may still be able to do it.
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 04:49 PM
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Go to the atkins website for more info on thermal pellet.
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 04:53 PM
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Ah, thats an internal engine thing. I believe it would have been replaced when it was rebuilt right?

Btw, I did not send my engine to be rebuilt, I just bought another one, so it was probly assembled with alot of replacement parts.
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 04:53 PM
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Ya you can still do it. Check MazdaTrix.com FAQ. I think there is info on it there.
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 04:57 PM
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Well, there is a little tag saying "Warantee Void If Removed" across my hub bolt there, so I should prbably avoid that one

Anyone know anything else I'm gonna need to do?
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 05:02 PM
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Ahh ****, you got it from pineapple ... no worries man they replace them. I did'nt read that part. You got a very solid reputable motor, just fire that **** up!

P.S. add coolant & Oil
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 06:09 PM
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what about filling the block with oil and coolant? If you can only fill the radiator with coolant and the oil pan with oil, how do you make sure that the fluids get properly moved through the engine?


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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 07:09 PM
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Well I would assume its the same idea as an oil change. When you change the oil, all of it gets emptied out, and it fills back up to where it should be on its own. Just a guess though. Good question.
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 07:26 PM
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Don't forget to build an altar to the RX-7 gods... You must burn a picture of a riced out neon, forsake all aluminum triple decker wings, and sacrifice a quart of 20w-50, all while chanting "My rotor goes round and round, my rotor goes round and round."
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by $100T2
Don't forget to build an altar to the RX-7 gods... You must burn a picture of a riced out neon, forsake all aluminum triple decker wings, and sacrifice a quart of 20w-50, all while chanting "My rotor goes round and round, my rotor goes round and round."
GOD DAMN IT! Thats the reason my engine is being such a pain in the rear. It won't start cause I forgot to do the chant... MOther of hell.. ARRRRGGGHHHHH!
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by ponykiller
what about filling the block with oil and coolant? If you can only fill the radiator with coolant and the oil pan with oil, how do you make sure that the fluids get properly moved through the engine?


Kris
Be sure to fill the oil filter with oil too... that should help get some oil into the motor. If you got your motor from Pineapple Racing, just call Rob with any questions. He's an awesome guy and really helpful!
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