Turbo2with33k

Iam new to 13b stuff. I hear alot of people talk about some fuel cutoff switch? Iam shooting for 400whp

WHAT DO I NEED TO DO FIRST?

Turbo2with33k

MY CAR IS ALL STOCK.

c_mart_28

iTrader: (1)

400whp is going to be pretty hard to attain. Lots of questions to ask first such as: is it going to be a daily driver? How much mechanical experience do you have? I see by your name that you have very low miles, but the car is still aging..have you done all that needs to be done and/or replaced all that needs it on such a car? 400whp is almost super-FC range that leaves very little on the car un-touched. Many threads have started of this very nature so my best advice to you would be to take full advantage of the little search button on the upper right hand corner of the site. Best of luck with your project Sir.

Madrx7racer

1. Intake
2. exhaust
3. FCD
4.bigger injectors
5. BIG turbo
6. Fuel pump
7. you will need to go Stand-alone
8. FMIC
9.Electric radiator
10.......i'll think of more

zjbarra

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#10 could be a street port or a clutch. Just for the sake of making sure, you have a turbo 2 right? Because yeah, I've seen NA guys asking how they get 400 on their NA.

FCD is going to be pointless if you go stand alone. The computer you buy will do that by itself. You can buy them used for pretty cheap though so if you can't afford a stand alone right off, that wouldn't be a bad way to go. Buy a fuel controller for your car while you're at it if you can't go stand alone right away. I'm not going to battle people on this but for some reason there is a handful of people who don't think you need a S-AFC in this process. You might be able to get away with it but it's basically giving the ECU an inability to know how much fuel it's adding because for all it knows, you've got a stock fuel pump and stock injectors. Just my 2 cents.

I've had the turbo 2 I bought out of comission through all of the time I've had it as I get it ready for all of this and the mods it's getting for about 300 hp for now and possibly more later are the following:

3" K and N
Custom 3" TID (no mas obviously)
Haltech E6X With 3 Bar map and other standard sensors
stock 550 primary injectors, 1600 secondaries
Walbro 255 fuel pump
Building my own street ported 13b with 3mm apex seals
Either a hybrid or To4E turbo (you'd probably want a full to4e 60-1)
3" full ehxaust
Custom FMIC
Koyo radiator
ACT clutch

There is a bit of other little stuff like blockoff plates and stuff you're going to want for this setup but this is the general forumula I'm taking and I don't think I'm really lacking anything.

Icemark

Before you touch even one thing; the first thing you should do is a tune up replacing spark plugs, S plugwires, filters, all fluids, O2, belts, any leaking gaskets, re-lube the front bearings and replace the Pulstation dampner.

Anything else should be secondary and not considered until the full tune up is done.

Ed88convert

^^^

Note how Icemark always breaks it down for you.

neptuneRX

the first thing you do is step back and save all your money because you're gonna need it for repairs and downtime

Davidov

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#1 Save for a standalone
#2 If in the process of saving, put some money into reliability mods...parts that make the car stronger.

Parastie

Is an s4 engine capable of producing 400hp?

1987RX7guy

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Electric radiator

DEZERTE

Really, listen to icemark. I believe he seriously knows his stuff. He has the most technically correct advice on this forum i think, he's like a human FSM :S

jsotelo

S4 has lower compression so you can run more boost

400 rwhp is a LOT thou..

Man.. I'm going hybrid turbo with ported wastegate, full exhaust, Microtech, rebuilt engine by Rotary Racer, FMIC and I'm shooting for 300 ish rwhp

Of course my goal is ZERO detonation.. heh

400.. hmm I 'd say Okay it's never gonna happen with this car but I'll bite because I'd like to dream :-)

This is what I would start with..

Huge turbo with external wastegate
Stand alone engine managment
720cc primary injectors
1200cc secondaries
Huge FMIC
New high flow fuel pump
Aluminum Radiator
Intake
3 inch downpipe with 3inch piping all the way back
street ported engine
Gonna need a fatty ACT clutch to hold down the power

Plus everything that Ice already said. Plugs, wires, fuel filter,fluids.

Basicly you are talking at least $6000.00 in parts and that's if you can do the labor yourself.

Oh yeah and budget in a new motor every.. what woudl you guys say? 30K miles or so if he keeps it tuned right?

Or ask Batman how many motors he's poped becuase he just "turned up the boost"

Turbo2with33k

Where do you guys buy alot of youre parts? I was thinking of a FP green turbo cause i have one off my dsm that is new. I have been reading up on 13b's and stuff. I see alot of people are worried about bov's why is that all about i will have some pictures soon. And what is a good fmic for these? I see that greddy for like $1300 or something like that. I would just like to find just the pipe kit for one i have acouple fmic'ers.

Rotary Racer

To be honest the #1 thing to being able to obtain power is knowledge. Get the car, do basic tune up, fix the problems it probably has, buy a factory manual, read the info that floats on here every day and learn all about the fun quirks these cars have. The more you know the better armed you are. And once you are knowledgeable you should be able to answer your own question.

- Dana

Turbo2with33k

Ya bla bla there is nothing wrong with my car. I have replaced all that stuff. I want to make it fast, thanks for the life lesson. lol

I dont care if it last 20,000 miles i will rebuild it or buy a 20b.

rxcyprus7

400 hp no sweat... Here's 10 easy steps:

1)buy a lotto ticket
2)win the lotto
3) take about 50-80 grand
4) source a cosmo 20b front clip
5) have it completly rebuilt
6)buy a 6speed supra tranny and high performance clutch and adapt it to the 20b
7)upgrade everything on the car from brakes to struts
8)Pay someone a LOT of money to install
9) Get a stand alone to run it i.e. MOTEC
10) join the 20b forum

ddub

Quoted from this other Tune-up Procedure thread.



"Check for leaks EVERYWHERE air/fluid/fuel/exhaust

Check or replace:

Engine Oil and Filter
Tranny Fluid
Differential Fluid
Radiator Flush
Radiator Hoses 5/8th and 5/16th
Radiator caps
Thermostat
Brake Fluid
Clutch Fluid
Power Steering Fluid
Spark Plugs
Spark Plug Wires
Coils
Timing
Throttle Position Sensor
Idle Speed
Idle Mixture
Battery Terminals Tight (not too tight)
Air Filter
Vacuum Hoses 3.5mm/6mm/10mm
Fuel Filter - In Tank and High Pressure
Fuel Lines 5/16th High Pressure
Pulsation Damper
Injectors Cleaned
Belts
Compression Test
Check Fuel Pump Voltage
Tranny Bushings/Seals
Brake Pads
Brake Line Hoses and Connections
Brake Caliper Operation
Wheel Bearings
Tie Rod Boots/Ball Joint Boots
Axle Boots
Suspension Bushings Control Arms/Sway Bars
Struts/Springs
Torque Lug Nuts
Tire Pressure
Tire Wear
Windshield Wipers
Headlights/Turn Signals/Brake Lights etc

General check of wires in engine bay for damage or corrosion

General check for loose bolts/nuts/parts

Get an Alignment

Do Grounding:
Leading Coil 10 gauge
Trailing Coil 10
Pressure Sensor 10
ECU 10
Firewall to bell housing 4
Battery Negative to Body to Engine 4
Fuel Injection Harness Under UIM 10


Get some Smart Fuses

http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/...0101&langId=-1 "

1987RX7guy

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rxcyprus7
you are joking right? 400hp is easy for a 13BT unless he wants to stay with an n/a and go up to 400 then thats a problem lol. Its a pretty standard build up to 400whp for an FC TII. A TO4(proper size ofcoarse) will do that no problem.

elfking

Having an attitude to people who try and help you will not get you far in your quest to make your car fast. If you are having to ask that question on this forum, then you probbably are not ready to make the car fast on your own. People have already told you above what you will need to make your car fast.

There's also a search feature of this forum in the upper right hand corner of the page, if you use it you will find more helpful information. This topic has been covered many times and you can even find more information in the 2nd Gen Archives area. This is located at the top of the page with the lists of different threads on the page.

If you want to use your DSM turbo on your RX-7 then be prepared to make custom manafolds/ wastegates etc.

Have you replaced your pulse dampaner, or had someone else do it for you?

If you have to ask on how to make your car fast with a 13b then good luck with your 20b project.

Explain your background a bit with the car, everything thats been done to it already. So you don't get the answers of "do a basic tuneup first" or "save for a rebuild" If people don't know your cars situation then they will recommend things that most people forget to look at first.

Enjoy your new car.

Turbo2with33k

Why cant i get a straight responce do none of you know?

1987RX7guy

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we don't like people that dont' care about doing things right.

Turbo2with33k

When i do ask a question all i get is a smart *** reponse. About 50% are full of **** and dont know nothing so you try and be funny so people like you. And for the other 50% thanks. I am going to have in 10 sec in the 1/4 with or without youre help.

Iam outa here. Thanks for nothing

Rotary Racer

Wow nice reply. This only shows that you are just the same as all the other nut dragging 15 year old trolls that plague car forums. “Oh look at me I don’t know anything about the car, but I want to make an un-realistic amount of HP, tell me how”

Ok then Mr. “new to 13b stuff” what exactly did you have replaced when you say “all that stuff”. So now your claiming that you know what the common problems are with the 2nd generation RX-7, and have already fixed them? I think you’re a bit confused.

What? Can’t you read the posts people have taken the time to type up?
- C_mart_28: He both gave you advice and tried to give you a couple of general questions for you to answer so that you can better appraise your modification situation. Did you answer them, No.
- Madrx7racer: Gave you a basic list to start off with, there was an answer.
- Zjbarra: Looks like another person with both a list of basic parts and some advice.
- Icemark: More good advice
- Ed88convert: Backing up Icemark cause he is a respected person in the rotary community.
- NeptuneRX: Looks like more good advice to me. Speed costs money!
- Davidov: Hey look more advice and a part to get you to your goal
And the list goes on and on….

You might want to invest in a good “mad quick” RC car and graduate to a real vehicle when you grow up.

- Dana

allforjesus06

obviously if you can discern that we're full of ****, and that you don't need our help, then you've answered your own question.

(my opinion) = If you're sole purpose is to drag with it, ditch the 7 to someone who is going to enjoy all the features and characteristics of it, and buy a muscle car.