slo

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Plus t bolt clamps and reinforced hose couplers right?

Madrx7racer

yup..........

slo

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ebay? Not bad at all. Mine cost about 400 to make but I use long pieces or renforced tuning and bends instead of welding.

Node

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with ebay today you can build a front mount kit super cheap, but im picky and dont like crap so i buy good parts.

Madrx7racer

hahaha..........^^^^ good job on being able to tell quality from blurry pics. I was very surprised and pleased with the welds of this intercooler core...........

slo

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The ebay FMIC 's are pretty good. I have a bar and plate 24x12x3 in comparison to my friends spearco of similar dimentions you can't tell the difference.

rx7 FC TII

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i agree i have the same intercooler...havent installed it yet but im getting around to it....lets get back on subject though i really want to learn more about this W to A intercooler.....

NZConvertible

This idea is as old as the hills. Been done lots of times. Here's one in an RX-4.

http://us1.webpublications.com.au/st.../0015_02mg.jpg

rotarygod

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Several years ago BDC had a stock top mount that he turned into an air/water unit. It was very crude. the welds were poor and he constantly was fixing leaks on it with JB Weld! He had fiberglassed in the storage area behind the driver's seat to turn it into a large water tank. He had a small Hyundai radiator up front as a heat exchanger and used a boat bilge pump for water circulation.

I remember about 7 or 8 years ago, the night I met him, he poured a 10 lb bag of ice into the tank and filled it up. We took it out for a drive and he was ragging on it for nearly an hour. After we got back to his house, he opened the hood and the damn intercooler had frost on it!!! It was not cold outside at all. This was Dallas in the early fall. I was highly impressed to say the least. He had no issues driving around with it everyday. He didn't use ice all the time though. He dyno'd 426 rwhp using that setup.

PM him to ask him about it sometime. I was in disbelief.

classicauto

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very impressive...

I never considered the fact that the I/C wouldn't be relieing on air flow....you could really insulate the crap out of it.

I suppose you could also engineer something inside the car...as rotary god's quoted setup....except perhaps using something like the existing evap. for the A/C and an additional fan....

rx7 FC TII

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wow.....thats pretty inpressive i might look into this at a very later time when i have a Daily driver and alot of throw away money

NZConvertible

Here's an old thread with a lot of info from BDC on his set-up.

http://forum.teamfc3s.org/showthread.php?t=4346

calypso

just a thought you could possibly cool the water using pressure and pelier elements. Only thing is you would need to heatsink the peltiers. But yea that could easily get you down to a VEERY low water temp.

rotarygod

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One thing that people need to remember is that he had a pretty large water tank. Most air/water setups use smaller tanks. The smaller the tank, the faster the water in it heats up. The largerthe tank the slower it heats up but the heavier it is. Water weighs about 8 lbs per gallon.

slo

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Unless there has been incredible breakthroughs in technology recently it wouldn't work. They are way to inefitiant, draw to much power and are not effective enough for such a large heat load.

Madrx7racer

wouldn't it be easier to do an ice water injection system for the FMIC? a tank with icewater in a bin, a small pump, lines and a sprayer kit?

wouldn't THAT be as efficient and less time consuming?

slo

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This system would fit easier and block less air from the radiator.

Are IC sprayers are that effective?

Still would have the advantage of less air volume in the intercooler and piping.