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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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Turbo Timer in N/A, will it work?

It's a silly question I know, but I know that companies like Apexi and Greddy make harness connectors for the FC TII's that basically connect directly from the car to the timer with no cuts and no splicing. But will it connect into an FC N/A with no cutting or splicing either?
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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there's something like that which Apex'i made, it's called an Auto Timer, and it goes on TII and NA's. pretty neat stuff.
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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Yeah, but why? All it will do is waste gas...
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 06:31 PM
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It will work.. tha harness, Im pretty sure is the same. The harness from my old TII worked on my S5 vert.

Some people put them on NA for the air conditioning. Your supposed to turn off the air conditioner and let just the fan run for about a minute blowing on cold instead of just having the air on and turning off the car.

That and it looks cool when you go on a date and turn off your car and your car stays on. Your date looks at you and says, "arent you going to turn off your car?"
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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I had my TBird setup so that when I disarmed the car it would open the doors for you. That was pretty sweet.
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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I want one for my NA only for warming the car up in the morning. I park on the street so I want to be able to turn my car on, lock my doors, and go inside and get my backpack and stuff and come out to an almost warm car and just go. Can't hurt anything. I want a Greedy timer...
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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umm why not buy an autostart?

this is honestly the dumbest idea i have ever heard for an rx7.

Also you only need to let the turbo "cool" after very hard driving, something useful for a track car/weekend track car or a drag car. most daily drivers do not need this feature.

transports have way bigger turbos and the only time you have to let the truck idle to let the turbo cool is after you are boosting for along time (heavy load or uphill)
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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Maybe he didn't know about autostarts? If you'd all climb back down off your high horses, you might remember that everyone who's ever been interested in cars had to start somewhere.

I agree though, if that's what you're after, I'd go ahead and get an inexpensive car alarm with remote start. I'm pretty sure they're cheaper than a Turbo Timer, and it'll protect your car.
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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well if you ever plan on going with a turbo swap, it can be handy to have that turbo timer i'd imagine.
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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auto timers, and turbo timers (there the same thing) are pointless unless your running a pretty beefy turbo, or you've just been racing on your TURBO car for the past 30 minutes.

Never heard about it for the AC i guess that kinda makes sense.. but i wouldnt care enough to use an auto timer.


Alarms can have autostart installed, wich is nice when its cold outside, as sgt.pepper said.

People who have timers... and dont need them are stupid, They would be better off buying me gas or food, or anything else for me.. lol
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Sgt. Pepper
I want one for my NA only for warming the car up in the morning. I park on the street so I want to be able to turn my car on, lock my doors, and go inside and get my backpack and stuff and come out to an almost warm car and just go. Can't hurt anything. I want a Greedy timer...
Hardware store. $3. Separate key.

Get in, start car. Get out, lock doors. Get in with main key after car has warmed up, drive.

Or, if you're doing it for warming the car up, spend the money on a remote starter instead. Peer out window, start car.

-=Russ=-
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 12:39 AM
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Good Idea for a turbo time, I know we don't really need it but I have a N/A everytime i finish driving somewhere I always let it sit about a minute before I turn off my car. I think if I install the turbo time I can leave the car and let it turn off it self.

Should I?
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 12:40 AM
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remote start alarms are better than turbo timers imo anyways since if you are in a pinch to shut the car off fast the last thing you need to be doing is fumbling with a turbo timer while your motor is pissing out oil and about to sieze up.

most remote start alarms can both start the car without you in it and you can set it to run while you lock up and walk away and turn it off with your pager.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 12:41 AM
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any great deal for a turbo timer? Sites? Good Deal?
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 12:47 AM
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while on the subject, a turbo timer is worthless for most turbo applications, it is only really needed on turbos that are ONLY oil cooled. the stock RX7 turbos are coolant and oil cooled btw. the reason being, in oil only cooled turbos the oil is what keeps the cartridge cool, if the turbine spools down while the manifold is red hot and oil stops flowing then the oil gets cooked off and the ashy residue cokes the bearings and wears them prematurely. in coolant cooled turbo applications it is not necessary to allow the turbo to fully cool before shutting down the motor. both examples were in relation to a turbo that was run hard prior to shutting down the motor.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 01:36 AM
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The previous owner of my car put a turbo timer on it. It has a stock turbo, and I find the turbo timer pretty annoying. I rarely use it. It's mostly necessary for cars without water cooler bearings.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 03:20 AM
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Well thanks for the replies and opinions and the bashing was welcome too. I just figured from what I heard about rotary engines creating immense amounts of heat compared to most conventional engines, that it wouldn't hurt to let it warm down after a drive instead of having it heatsoak from a high temperature. But just to clarify I wasn't sure on exactly how much heat "immense" was aimed at, it wasn't meant for posing purposes.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 03:26 AM
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****. Even turbo cars with timers are pretty gay,unless you really do have a big turbo.

i believe those who have a big turbo are the ones that wouldnt need a turbo timer, since they spin at a lower rpm to create the same power as the smaller turbo.... and have lower egt at that....

on my truck, the recommend shut off egt is below 350oF
driving around town only gets to 400 and when i park, its usually at 250 or 300.... so i just shut it off...

the ones that needs one are most likely the guys who boost 15 psi on their stock turbo rx7, run mid 13s, and decide to park right away... not the one with the 62-1s that run mid 13s and decide to park right away...
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 03:54 AM
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i believe those who have a big turbo are the ones that wouldnt need a turbo timer, since they spin at a lower rpm to create the same power as the smaller turbo.... and have lower egt at that....

on my truck, the recommend shut off egt is below 350oF
driving around town only gets to 400 and when i park, its usually at 250 or 300.... so i just shut it off...

the ones that needs one are most likely the guys who boost 15 psi on their stock turbo rx7, run mid 13s, and decide to park right away... not the one with the 62-1s that run mid 13s and decide to park right away...
I see what you're saying and it makes logical sense all the way. A turbo being pushed to the limit of its efficiency is going to make a hell of a lot more heat than a big one thats striding along.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Ljk619
It's a silly question I know, but I know that companies like Apexi and Greddy make harness connectors for the FC TII's that basically connect directly from the car to the timer with no cuts and no splicing. But will it connect into an FC N/A with no cutting or splicing either?
The harness is the same, so yes. I'm not sure what the purpose would be though.

Originally Posted by FrankV702
Some people put them on NA for the air conditioning. Your supposed to turn off the air conditioner and let just the fan run for about a minute blowing on cold instead of just having the air on and turning off the car.
I've never heard of this before. I can't see why you would want to do this either. The only thing it will do is bring the evaporator up to ambient temperature more quickly then as if it was just sitting.

Originally Posted by Sgt. Pepper
I want one for my NA only for warming the car up in the morning. I park on the street so I want to be able to turn my car on, lock my doors, and go inside and get my backpack and stuff and come out to an almost warm car and just go. Can't hurt anything. I want a Greedy timer...
You can save a lot of time by simply not "warming up" the car. It's unnecessary and just a waste of gas. Get in the car, start it up, put on your seatbelt, and drive away. The car is designed to be driven immediately after it's started like any other modern fuel injected car.

Originally Posted by MrSector9
Also you only need to let the turbo "cool" after very hard driving, something useful for a track car/weekend track car or a drag car. most daily drivers do not need this feature.
Stock turbo is water cooled so this is unnecessary. You can avoid this with aftermarket turbos if you don't ignore the coolant lines to the CHRA that are now present on most aftermarket turbos.
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