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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 10:32 PM
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turbo to NA swap, yes turbo TO NA

Ok well i have my NA that is in good condition, good interior ETC ETC. i have a tii donor car that has a rather crappy body and a lil rust. i am going to swap the drivetrain into my NA, and use a haltech to run it. By doing this the stock wiring harness will be in the TII, can i drop the NA engine in and use the TII harness, or will i have to swap the same parts you would have to on NA to TII (ECU,pressure sensor, AFM). also, will the NA ECU plug into the TII harness, i would like to sell the TII ecu and make some money if the NA one will plug in.

Is there any other things i will run into in the middle of all this swapping? like differential mounts being different (non LSD to LSD), tranny mounts?

sparknotes: i am swapping NA stuff into my TII and my TII stuff into my NA.

dont tell me i should just stick the engine into the tii and keep the NA NA. i dislike the condition of the tii overall, and want MY NA to be what i want it to be. and i enjoy doing this much work becuase i get to know the car better.the tii has a blown engine and i have a whole nother engine that is fully rebuilt,ported, ETC.
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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If you put the n/a engine into the turboii car, you NEED to at least put a n/a pressure/boost sensor in THAT car. You could still use the turbo afm if you want, but why not just put the n/a one in it. I've run with a Turbo afm in a n/a and it bothered me not.

The harness. The harness that fits on the engine is a EM harness. I won't tell you what EM stands for because it'll confuse you. If I were you I'd use the EM harness of the turboII instead of putting the EM harness of the n/a in the turbo car. In other words keep the harness'es all turboII even though your putting in a n/a engine.

I trust your going to use the n/a ECU. That's a given.

Why? Because the mating arrangement of the mating plugs of the EM harness to the F or front harness are not the same. I'm NOT talking about the mating to the ECU but the mating of the EM harness to the F or front harness.

So, let's say you took the advice to use the Turbo EM harness on the n/a engine. You still have some very small wire changes on the EM harness but they're insignificant and dependent on whether or not your having to pass emissions.
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 09:07 AM
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Sounds like you have lots of wrenching to do buddy!

Does a turbo AFM provide better flow than the S4 NA afm?
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by GodSquadMandrake
Sounds like you have lots of wrenching to do buddy!

Does a turbo AFM provide better flow than the S4 NA afm?
There's some thought that the turbo afm on a non turbo runs a bit leaner. As far as I'm concerned, that is something positive for a n/a. Personal predjudice thing. I didn't have a wideband on the car when I did that so that's why it's a personal predjudice/guess/assumption.

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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cdaleracer669
and use a haltech to run it. ETC.
If you are running a haltech you dont need an afm, and the haltech harness is completely independant. you dont need to put either one of the stock harnesses back in the car. There is nothing to terminating a flying lead harness to fit your car.

Unless i am confused on whether you are using a haltech or not
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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I'm still confused about what is going where. I kinda got the message that a n/a engine is going into a turboII chassis. ECU??? Halteck? Got me, as to which is going where or why.

Haltech going into the turbo chassis with n/a engine? Or is Hal going into a non turbo chassis with turbo engine? Or is Hal going over to Jeffery Dahmer's house and be dinner?
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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The answer is "D": none of the above.

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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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haltech going into NA with turbo engine. NA engine going into TII chassis and making it work the easiest i can. i thought itd be fun to have a beater NA i can pound on and not care a whole lot about.
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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He's putting the TII engine in his good N/A body, and controlling it with Haltech... Then he's ALSO putting the N/A engine in his crappy TII body to have a beater apparently... Stock engine management on that one... That's what I gathered... Hope this clears things up a bit...
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 12:52 PM
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Haha I nailed it... ^^^

Beat me to it though...
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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yup, i wanna put the NA stuff in the tii so it doesnt just sit there. and i thought itd be fun to trailor it to AUTO x's or do some road course racing without caring about hurting the car a whole lot. maybe bridge port the NA someday.....only thing holding me back is $$...lol
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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N/A into the Turbo chassis...............keep ALL the wiring TUBO.

Don't screw yourself and put a n/a EM harness on the motor to mate with the Turbo chassis harness.
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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why not just swap the Turbo stuff into the N/A and forget about the rest, part that **** out, if the car is shitty anyways.
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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cause he wants a car that he doesnt have to worry about beating to hell.
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