True or False: FDs more troublesome then FCs!?
I've been hearing a lot of this lately and wondering if its ALL true. I met this one guy had an FC TII, then got the FD and told me how much problems he had with it, broken tranny, fried turbo, vacuum lines popoff all the time etc, lots of electrical probs and WISHED he had his FC again. HOW CAN THIS BE?? The FD were made 93-95 with newer technology and "SHOULD" be a whole lot better, so why have I been hearing its more troublesome then an FC..can someone enlighten me!
They are better, but better in a different way. However, being better at one thing seems to mean deficiencies in another area.
The reason I could see a turbo FC as more reliable is because they are way more simple. The sequential twin setup of the FD is a nightmare to deal with. I think I read somewhere that it had a total of 72 vacuum hoses under the hood. Being more complex, there's just more stuff that can fail and cause a daisy chain effect of other things failing.
N/A FC's are further down the chain from both in terms of power, but I'd argue that n/a rotaries are more reliable.
The reason I could see a turbo FC as more reliable is because they are way more simple. The sequential twin setup of the FD is a nightmare to deal with. I think I read somewhere that it had a total of 72 vacuum hoses under the hood. Being more complex, there's just more stuff that can fail and cause a daisy chain effect of other things failing.
N/A FC's are further down the chain from both in terms of power, but I'd argue that n/a rotaries are more reliable.
Originally posted by JerryLH3
Short Answer: Yes
Long Answer: No. As long as you know what you are doing and make sure everything is done right, you will be OK. I like to refer to FDs as "finicky."
Short Answer: Yes
Long Answer: No. As long as you know what you are doing and make sure everything is done right, you will be OK. I like to refer to FDs as "finicky."
Originally posted by Scott 89t2
because starting in 91 the quality went way downhill to cut costs... the 91 rx7 will have more problems then other 2nd gens. and the 3rd gens are POS
because starting in 91 the quality went way downhill to cut costs... the 91 rx7 will have more problems then other 2nd gens. and the 3rd gens are POS
really? is that why they didn't put TurboII and GXL stickers on the 91's? LOL
I'm glad I have an '89 convertible rather than a '90 or a '91.
I like the cruise control switch better, and I don't have an airbag. The non-airbag thing is great because I *love* my little Momo steering wheel.
I like the cruise control switch better, and I don't have an airbag. The non-airbag thing is great because I *love* my little Momo steering wheel.
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Originally posted by Mykl
They are better, but better in a different way. However, being better at one thing seems to mean deficiencies in another area.
The reason I could see a turbo FC as more reliable is because they are way more simple. The sequential twin setup of the FD is a nightmare to deal with. I think I read somewhere that it had a total of 72 vacuum hoses under the hood. Being more complex, there's just more stuff that can fail and cause a daisy chain effect of other things failing.
N/A FC's are further down the chain from both in terms of power, but I'd argue that n/a rotaries are more reliable.
They are better, but better in a different way. However, being better at one thing seems to mean deficiencies in another area.
The reason I could see a turbo FC as more reliable is because they are way more simple. The sequential twin setup of the FD is a nightmare to deal with. I think I read somewhere that it had a total of 72 vacuum hoses under the hood. Being more complex, there's just more stuff that can fail and cause a daisy chain effect of other things failing.
N/A FC's are further down the chain from both in terms of power, but I'd argue that n/a rotaries are more reliable.
ha ha mykl, you're so much fun to pick on, i love you <3
and get on AIM you bum
heres the deal if your a rotor nut then and you get a 3g from another rotor nut then chances are your gonna be ok and have about as many problems as you would with a 2g. First mod I would do is replace the vaccum lines on a 3g they are the key reason for reuilding the turbos and sometimes engines. 2nd is to do something about the underhood temps. Engine Cooling is another thing to look at. I would go out on a limb and say that you can have a SINGLE turbo 13B-REW and be just as reliable as a 13BT. But of course money wise were talking major differences. I say get a turbo2 and get going. Get a 3rd gen and get another loan. Not trying to be too biased - Gabe
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What are some reliability mods for FCs or are we just too damn reliable ;-)
main one i can think of is the piggyback to trick the ECU and its gay fuel cut when boost is raised, and erm get rid/replace cats
main one i can think of is the piggyback to trick the ECU and its gay fuel cut when boost is raised, and erm get rid/replace cats
oh yeah thanks node Heat... Getting a cold air intake setup to get cooler air instead of hot air from the turbos (2g doenst even have a cold air intake setup) and a downpipe to get the heat away from the second turbo and rear rotor are two other things i would get. Cats get just as hot as turbos so replacing the cats (a nono for emmisions) help reduce under hood temps greatly. -Gabe
Man, when i get an FD (yes thats a 'when', not an 'if') the first mods are going to be a downpipe, radiator, ic, and converted to non-sequntial turbos.
I hate vaccume line. They are my enemy (as is emmsions equipment which seams to bring in most of the damn vaccume lines)...
Anything more that what the cars NEEDs bugs me. 3k rpm startup? **** that, i have a foot! OMP? carry a bottle of 2-cycle with you!
2 turbos? Why when i can do it with 1! 
wow that turned into some wierd self-moto, angry rant type thing.... oh well
I hate vaccume line. They are my enemy (as is emmsions equipment which seams to bring in most of the damn vaccume lines)...
Anything more that what the cars NEEDs bugs me. 3k rpm startup? **** that, i have a foot! OMP? carry a bottle of 2-cycle with you!
2 turbos? Why when i can do it with 1! 
wow that turned into some wierd self-moto, angry rant type thing.... oh well
I've had A LOT more trouble with my TurboII than my R1, but then its mostly due to the previous owners taking/not taking care of the car(s).
Oh, I accually did this backwards, I bought the TurboII after I had the FD already.. and I accually like it better. =) Its a little more fun to play with...
Oh, I accually did this backwards, I bought the TurboII after I had the FD already.. and I accually like it better. =) Its a little more fun to play with...
My buddy's FD never really had any BAD problems with it causing him to completely discard the card or something, but it did have its share of problems. I think Mazda trying to cut costs down and then the complexity of the twin turbo sequential system just puts too many factors into the equation. If one of those things falter just a tad, then everything else falls like a domino. I'll stick with my 88. ^_-
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Originally posted by Node
reliable? Thats because you never reach over 70mph. Like a little oversized golf cart
ha ha mykl, you're so much fun to pick on, i love you <3
and get on AIM you bum
reliable? Thats because you never reach over 70mph. Like a little oversized golf cart
ha ha mykl, you're so much fun to pick on, i love you <3
and get on AIM you bum

My oversized go-car can make the speedo read 140. :p It's funny that you say go-cart, because the other day a couple guys I know asked me why my car sounded like one.
I told them it was because it has a rotary engine, and one of the asked "so is that a V-6"?I'm at work, so no AIM for me at this time.
Originally posted by Node
What are some reliability mods for FCs or are we just too damn reliable ;-)
main one i can think of is the piggyback to trick the ECU and its gay fuel cut when boost is raised, and erm get rid/replace cats
What are some reliability mods for FCs or are we just too damn reliable ;-)
main one i can think of is the piggyback to trick the ECU and its gay fuel cut when boost is raised, and erm get rid/replace cats
and stop dissing on people you don't even have a car either
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