tried and tried, but tranny won't go in
#26
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I HAD THE same problem after the 4th try it went it so smooth no prob. If its not going in smoothly then its not aligned properly. I didnt beleive em but it will go right in smoothly
jason
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#27
i put the tranny in gear and then tried to slide it in and it went in it was about half an in away from being there so I went inside the car tied a rope around the tranny and pulled up on it while my uncle pushed it in from the bottom.
#28
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I had the same ordeal as you're having the first time I put my transmission back in. I'd work until my temper boiled over, quit, then try again the next night. I finally rented a transmission jack, which was a tremendous help. It allows you to position the transmission at the right angle and height, and hold it steady there. Then you can concentrate on pushing, cussing, and turning the tailshaft.
Some things that I did to help myself were to loosen up the motor mounts and angle the engine back, and I bent the opening in the transmission tunnel to provide a little more manuevering clearance. Now, I also wire brush the front portion of the splines on the input shaft, and apply a little grease.
I've also made some guide pins out of some extra mounting bolts (cut the heads off, and sawed screwdriver slots in them). I screw them in the mounting holes on the motor, and they serve as guide rails to keep the transmission aligned and centered. When the transmission is in place I use a screwdriver to back them out and replace them with the proper mounting bolts.
How much grease do you have in your pilot bearing? That stuff isn't compressible, and too much may be preventing you from pushing the input shaft in all the way.
Some things that I did to help myself were to loosen up the motor mounts and angle the engine back, and I bent the opening in the transmission tunnel to provide a little more manuevering clearance. Now, I also wire brush the front portion of the splines on the input shaft, and apply a little grease.
I've also made some guide pins out of some extra mounting bolts (cut the heads off, and sawed screwdriver slots in them). I screw them in the mounting holes on the motor, and they serve as guide rails to keep the transmission aligned and centered. When the transmission is in place I use a screwdriver to back them out and replace them with the proper mounting bolts.
How much grease do you have in your pilot bearing? That stuff isn't compressible, and too much may be preventing you from pushing the input shaft in all the way.
#29
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not alot of grease... actually
but is a transmission jack that much more helpful? everywhere i've read people just say have a few friends and just keep working at it....
come to think of it, i really should have greased the splines more...
i think i would take it out again and really re-align it...
one more thing is, those transmission adapters for 3+ ton jacks.... can u adjust angles like what you say? if it is, then it does seem like a big help
but is a transmission jack that much more helpful? everywhere i've read people just say have a few friends and just keep working at it....
come to think of it, i really should have greased the splines more...
i think i would take it out again and really re-align it...
one more thing is, those transmission adapters for 3+ ton jacks.... can u adjust angles like what you say? if it is, then it does seem like a big help
#30
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i just used a heavy duty floor jack and put the transmission in the middle of it.
try to avoid over greasing the splines, the input shaft will sling that crap off once the clutch engages and grease is not something you really want on your clutch disc and pressure plate... not very good advice. i have never needed to grease the spline in the past and never had any big problems getting a tranny in, if the disc doesn't slide on the splines easily then the disc is either cheap or wrong.
try to avoid over greasing the splines, the input shaft will sling that crap off once the clutch engages and grease is not something you really want on your clutch disc and pressure plate... not very good advice. i have never needed to grease the spline in the past and never had any big problems getting a tranny in, if the disc doesn't slide on the splines easily then the disc is either cheap or wrong.
#32
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i tried for a short while trying to get it in without jacking the engine, it sure as hell makes a ton of difference.. i knew it would make life easier but i figured i would see how difficult it was without jacking the engine, too tough for me to want to find out and at the same time risking damaging the new pilot bearing.
#33
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the disc haven't failed me yet ^_^ but i'll try to use a bottle jack to jack up the front of the E-shaft pulley then every advice seems to point to jacking up the engine... that seems to make life much easier
#34
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[QUOTE=Karack]
try to avoid over greasing the splines, the input shaft will sling that crap off once the clutch engages and grease is not something you really want on your clutch disc and pressure plate... not very good advice. QUOTE]
There was nothing wrong with that advice. I said "a little grease", assuming the poster had minimal common sense. Apparently, the FSM makes the same assumption:
try to avoid over greasing the splines, the input shaft will sling that crap off once the clutch engages and grease is not something you really want on your clutch disc and pressure plate... not very good advice. QUOTE]
There was nothing wrong with that advice. I said "a little grease", assuming the poster had minimal common sense. Apparently, the FSM makes the same assumption:
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I'm probably going to be tackling this sometime over the weekend. What exacly is "molybdenum disulphide" grease? I'm guessing it's just plain old wheel bearing/axle grease, but I figure I should ask since the shop manual is very specific about the type to use.
#36
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I think it is just general purpose grease. Since you got my curosity up, I searched for "molybdenum disulphide" and found a few products that use molybdenum disulphide as an additive. This one for example:
http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=68
I usually just read the containers when I buy grease, but they don't always state everything that's in the grease--they sometimes just refer to the mil spec.
http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=68
I usually just read the containers when I buy grease, but they don't always state everything that's in the grease--they sometimes just refer to the mil spec.
#37
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thanks guys, tilting the engnie with a bottle jack (it was a bottle jack ON a 3 ton jack) and using the valvoline to grease the splines worked well
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im not sure anybody has said this or not but if someone stainds in the front of the car and pulls on the engine the tranny pops right in. i know this because ive had to replace two trannys and both times i had to do the same thing.
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Originally Posted by Cybaster
thanks guys, tilting the engnie with a bottle jack (it was a bottle jack ON a 3 ton jack) and using the valvoline to grease the splines worked well
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Originally Posted by MARTIN
I never knew people had so much trouble replacing trannies... but congrats that you finally got it.
-Ted