TB mod and port, pic time!
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TB mod and port, pic time!
ok took apart my TB and did the TB Mod to it and i am now in the process of porting it out to a nice monster port. Took some quick pics after only using my first cutting bit, id go take pics now but i fnially got fed up with this single digit weather and came out of the garage, so new pics tomorrow.
here's the only pic of the stock "ports"
and here are three pics of in progress, after these pics i went at it with a round cutting bit and got everything nicely setup then went back at it with the drum cutting bit, and then used an 80 grit flapper sanding bit, ill take pics of all that progress sometime tomorrow.
this should help throw some nice new flames muaha.
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here's the only pic of the stock "ports"
and here are three pics of in progress, after these pics i went at it with a round cutting bit and got everything nicely setup then went back at it with the drum cutting bit, and then used an 80 grit flapper sanding bit, ill take pics of all that progress sometime tomorrow.
this should help throw some nice new flames muaha.
kevin.
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Originally posted by trainwreck517
what would this have to do with flames?
You should get a nicer throttle response though.
what would this have to do with flames?
You should get a nicer throttle response though.
it was also a reference to my former video of flames.
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Originally posted by teknics
by removing extra weight and such from the TB you get a quicker snapping closed action producing a nicer flame.
by removing extra weight and such from the TB you get a quicker snapping closed action producing a nicer flame.
Nice work though.
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Originally posted by NZConvertible
The TB mod has nothing to do with the closing of the throttles, only the opening rate of the secondaries. It won't make any difference to exhaust flames.
Nice work though.
The TB mod has nothing to do with the closing of the throttles, only the opening rate of the secondaries. It won't make any difference to exhaust flames.
Nice work though.
the dashpot is a "damper" for the plates.
but believe what you want.
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Originally posted by poor_red_neck
Nice work man
Are there any drawbacks to removing the dashpot? I've thought about it... don't see why you need the throttle to close slowly..
Nice work man
Are there any drawbacks to removing the dashpot? I've thought about it... don't see why you need the throttle to close slowly..
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Originally posted by teknics
ACTUALLY by removing the dashpot, whose job is to slow the closing of all throttle plates you allow them to "snap" close allowing the production of more flames.
ACTUALLY by removing the dashpot, whose job is to slow the closing of all throttle plates you allow them to "snap" close allowing the production of more flames.
Doing the "TB mod" involves removal of the #2 secondary throttles and linkages (plus the thermowax if you want to). Doing this doesn't make flames, as your post implied.
Removal of the other dashpot is an entirely seperate issue, and it doesn't make flames either. It's there to improve drivabilty and emissions when lifting off the throttle.
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Originally posted by NZConvertible
There are two dashpots on the TB. One slows the closing of the throttles, one slows the opening of the #2 secondary throttles.
Doing the "TB mod" involves removal of the #2 secondary throttles and linkages (plus the thermowax if you want to). Doing this doesn't make flames, as your post implied.
Removal of the other dashpot is an entirely seperate issue, and it doesn't make flames either. It's there to improve drivabilty and emissions when lifting off the throttle.
There are two dashpots on the TB. One slows the closing of the throttles, one slows the opening of the #2 secondary throttles.
Doing the "TB mod" involves removal of the #2 secondary throttles and linkages (plus the thermowax if you want to). Doing this doesn't make flames, as your post implied.
Removal of the other dashpot is an entirely seperate issue, and it doesn't make flames either. It's there to improve drivabilty and emissions when lifting off the throttle.
plus like i said, believe what you wanna believe honestly, and ill believe what i believe.
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Originally posted by teknics
ACTUALLY by removing the dashpot, whose job is to slow the closing of all throttle plates you allow them to "snap" close allowing the production of more flames.
ACTUALLY by removing the dashpot, whose job is to slow the closing of all throttle plates you allow them to "snap" close allowing the production of more flames.
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Originally posted by teknics
maybe your definition of TB Mod is different from mine then, you just modify half the tb? well i modify the whole thing.
maybe your definition of TB Mod is different from mine then, you just modify half the tb? well i modify the whole thing.
The front dashpot does nothing after you remove the throttle plates.
The rear dashpot help damp the throttle when you have abrupt lift off.
I bet your car doesn't idle well or you're bumping the idle above stock limits (750RPM). The rear dashpot doe not affect performance of the throttle body, and it only helps driveability. Sure, it might not affect the way the car drives for you, but to assume it doesn't do anything and, therefore, you can yank it and throw it away is pure ignorance.
*I* was the first one to publish my throttle body mod page on the Inet. Before I did that, I made sure the modification was as trouble-prone as possible. I keep the rear dashpot installed for a reason.
How old are you???
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Originally posted by teknics
maybe your definition of TB Mod is different from mine then, you just modify half the tb? well i modify the whole thing.
maybe your definition of TB Mod is different from mine then, you just modify half the tb? well i modify the whole thing.
plus like i said, believe what you wanna believe honestly, and ill believe what i believe.
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Originally posted by RETed
And you're lack of intelligence is obvious...
The front dashpot does nothing after you remove the throttle plates.
The rear dashpot help damp the throttle when you have abrupt lift off.
I bet your car doesn't idle well or you're bumping the idle above stock limits (750RPM). The rear dashpot doe not affect performance of the throttle body, and it only helps driveability. Sure, it might not affect the way the car drives for you, but to assume it doesn't do anything and, therefore, you can yank it and throw it away is pure ignorance.
*I* was the first one to publish my throttle body mod page on the Inet. Before I did that, I made sure the modification was as trouble-prone as possible. I keep the rear dashpot installed for a reason.
How old are you???
-Ted
And you're lack of intelligence is obvious...
The front dashpot does nothing after you remove the throttle plates.
The rear dashpot help damp the throttle when you have abrupt lift off.
I bet your car doesn't idle well or you're bumping the idle above stock limits (750RPM). The rear dashpot doe not affect performance of the throttle body, and it only helps driveability. Sure, it might not affect the way the car drives for you, but to assume it doesn't do anything and, therefore, you can yank it and throw it away is pure ignorance.
*I* was the first one to publish my throttle body mod page on the Inet. Before I did that, I made sure the modification was as trouble-prone as possible. I keep the rear dashpot installed for a reason.
How old are you???
-Ted
how odd, my car idles perfectly at 750-800rpm, amazing huh? also i never said the dashpots do nothing but there are no long term damaging effects.
im not trying to argue with you people, when i say i dont care, i honestly dont care,y ou believe and say what you want, i.... dont..... care. you people just try to drag a fight out of everything geebus h christ.
and i wont even justify your age question as that's rediculous.
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Originally posted by gergrx7
nice job porting it. how long did it take you?
nice job porting it. how long did it take you?
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Originally posted by teknics
thats not the finished porting,
thats not the finished porting,
Originally posted by teknics
how odd, my car idles perfectly at 750-800rpm, amazing huh?
how odd, my car idles perfectly at 750-800rpm, amazing huh?
It doesn;t matter if you don't care. What matters is that you are posting bullshit on here. You got called on it.
If you really want to justify the age being unimportant, you should now own up, be responsible, and admit you were wrong.
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Originally posted by teknics
you people just try to drag a fight out of everything...
you people just try to drag a fight out of everything...
and i wont even justify your age question as that's rediculous.
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Actually, your "I don't care what anybody else thinks" attitude matches your age perfectly, which is probably why Ted asked.
Also, people that make their own mistakes and take the time and effort to correct them is only a win-win situation
haha im done
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Originally posted by scathcart
If you really want to justify the age being unimportant, you should now own up, be responsible, and admit you were wrong.
If you really want to justify the age being unimportant, you should now own up, be responsible, and admit you were wrong.
NZConvertible: me not caring matches my age? i dont care because all i did was cmoe here to show some pics and receive some feedback as to possible things to be reshaped or whatever....i dont come to this board for normal conversation, when i have some interesting to share or would like a 2nd opinion on i post it
sooooo me not caring = me not looking to argue about some stupid **** that wont change how im going to do things....you're arguing about the use of a ******* dashpot....step back and think about that, i think you need to go outside and fly a kite or something just get away from the intraweb.
scathart: i havent had the dashpots on for a while all im basically doing was cleaning it up and getting rid of the coolant lines. and he said "i bet you dont have a good idle" or something i replied with "my idle is 750-800rpm"....that statement is true, the last time my car idled it idled perfectly at 750rpm without dashpots and with the fast idle not connected.
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Originally posted by teknics
when someone can prove to my face that i am wrong, i will admit so. but no one can prove im wrong nor can i prove im right, thats why this is such a useless argument
when someone can prove to my face that i am wrong, i will admit so. but no one can prove im wrong nor can i prove im right, thats why this is such a useless argument
I have perfected cold fusion. I can't show you I have, but its true until you prove me wrong.
When you get a little more experience, you'll realize that's just how life works, whether it be for a class, for a career, or even something as seemingly moot as an internet forum.
Flames are caused by rich exhaust being ignited by oxygen. Removing dashpots will not make you run more rich at the tailpipe.
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Wow.
First off Nice work Teknics!
Second:
Why does the RX7Club forum have to be like this?
Why cant you people over here just be nice like on Teamfc or Nopistons??
Its one giant flame war!
What do you guys accomplish by flaming so much?
Seriously, tell me.
I would like to know.
You guys act like a bunch of Honda owners!
~Kyle~
First off Nice work Teknics!
Second:
Why does the RX7Club forum have to be like this?
Why cant you people over here just be nice like on Teamfc or Nopistons??
Its one giant flame war!
What do you guys accomplish by flaming so much?
Seriously, tell me.
I would like to know.
You guys act like a bunch of Honda owners!
~Kyle~