TB mod and port, pic time!
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good job so far Kevin,
Keep up the good work and let us know what kind of "seat of the pants" benifits you get(if any) Well, you've got a Turbo so you should notice alot better throttle response. And it "should" pull slightly harder up around 5000+
-Markus Reschny
Keep up the good work and let us know what kind of "seat of the pants" benifits you get(if any) Well, you've got a Turbo so you should notice alot better throttle response. And it "should" pull slightly harder up around 5000+
-Markus Reschny
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this is the reason right here why i hardly ever post here....old guys vs young guys.....
a young guy makes a silly comment and the old guys bitch and argue about it so much that the point gets lost...
hey older more experienced guys..instead of slamming on new, young and unexperienced members,..maybe you should be a mentor in the rx-7 community, teach people what you know and what your theories are instead of shoving them down thier throats and being an ***
if you are gonna be jerks why dont you throw a b16a vtec motor in your rex and call it a day
a young guy makes a silly comment and the old guys bitch and argue about it so much that the point gets lost...
hey older more experienced guys..instead of slamming on new, young and unexperienced members,..maybe you should be a mentor in the rx-7 community, teach people what you know and what your theories are instead of shoving them down thier throats and being an ***
if you are gonna be jerks why dont you throw a b16a vtec motor in your rex and call it a day
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Originally posted by MMMCCCLXXXVI
Second:
Why does the RX7Club forum have to be like this?
Why cant you people over here just be nice like on Teamfc or Nopistons??
Its one giant flame war!
What do you guys accomplish by flaming so much?
Seriously, tell me.
I would like to know.
You guys act like a bunch of Honda owners!
Second:
Why does the RX7Club forum have to be like this?
Why cant you people over here just be nice like on Teamfc or Nopistons??
Its one giant flame war!
What do you guys accomplish by flaming so much?
Seriously, tell me.
I would like to know.
You guys act like a bunch of Honda owners!
If you think that was flaming, you have no idea what a flame is.
ANYONE who wants to throw flames out from their car is an idiot, period.
Why would ANY sane person want to...
1) damage their engine due to backfires
2) damage their exhaust due to backfires
It's like the same scenario with idiots who like to do burnouts that have nothing to do with a sanction drag race... Why would anyone want to...
1) Ruin perfectly good tires
2) Possibly damage the drivetrain and engine
WHY? "Cause it's cool..."
Mature people would call it "IDIOTIC".
We can tolerate only so much crap, before we need to step up and say something. This forum is open to discussion, but be prepared for criticism - not all of it maybe be correct.
If you're thinned skinned, I suggest go elsewhere. We're not here to hold hands and stroke your ego so you don't cry.
Seriously people, the "general public" can only tolerate so much "bullshit". If you're so worried about the bad treatment, why don't you tell all these idiotic posters to be a little intelligent with their posts? Isn't it a double standard you blast the critics, but you leave the idiot alone???
THINK ABOUT IT
-Ted
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Originally posted by jaidedeye
this is the reason right here why i hardly ever post here....old guys vs young guys.....
a young guy makes a silly comment and the old guys bitch and argue about it so much that the point gets lost...
hey older more experienced guys..instead of slamming on new, young and unexperienced members,..maybe you should be a mentor in the rx-7 community, teach people what you know and what your theories are instead of shoving them down thier throats and being an ***
if you are gonna be jerks why dont you throw a b16a vtec motor in your rex and call it a day
this is the reason right here why i hardly ever post here....old guys vs young guys.....
a young guy makes a silly comment and the old guys bitch and argue about it so much that the point gets lost...
hey older more experienced guys..instead of slamming on new, young and unexperienced members,..maybe you should be a mentor in the rx-7 community, teach people what you know and what your theories are instead of shoving them down thier throats and being an ***
if you are gonna be jerks why dont you throw a b16a vtec motor in your rex and call it a day
I'm really getting tired of the boo-hoo attitude.
I'm not here to pamper your delicate ego. I'm not getting paid for this.
I guess it's open season to start dumping stupid posts just to **** everyone off.
Isn't it oxymoronic if I come in here and ask how to stuff a B16A VTEC motor into my RX-7, and you bitch about it?
Lesse...you got 30 posts credited to your nick. Right now posts counts are the only way I can tell how helpful you've been in here. It sure looks like you're not really contributing to helping ANYONE out in here. If I'm wrong, please point me to the proof that I am...
WTF is this world coming to...
-Ted
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i have only 30 post in here because i use nopistons and teamfc3s most of the time.
and no i am not thinned skinned
as far as the v-tec motor comment.....read it again dude....it was a smart *** comment saying that some people act like ricers in here so why do you just throw a b16a in your car....it was a joke
and as far as me being an noobie or whatever you call it....i highly doubt that,,im no veteran on rotaries but im no noobie either. i worked as a rb26 and an sr20 engine builder when i lived in japan..but lets not dicuss that ..it has nothing to do with rotaries.....and apparantly the number of post on a chat forum reflects how much actual knowledge you have right??? give me a break
sounds like you are the one that needs the diapers to pamper you ego......but thats just my .02
this whole thing is actually quite funny..so ill just watch you "experts" with your 7821 posts and maybe ill become an arrogant ******* someday....damn no wonder rotary owners get bad names...
the simple answer to the whole "flame shooting" thing would have been ..."no" end of story ..
and no i am not thinned skinned
as far as the v-tec motor comment.....read it again dude....it was a smart *** comment saying that some people act like ricers in here so why do you just throw a b16a in your car....it was a joke
and as far as me being an noobie or whatever you call it....i highly doubt that,,im no veteran on rotaries but im no noobie either. i worked as a rb26 and an sr20 engine builder when i lived in japan..but lets not dicuss that ..it has nothing to do with rotaries.....and apparantly the number of post on a chat forum reflects how much actual knowledge you have right??? give me a break
sounds like you are the one that needs the diapers to pamper you ego......but thats just my .02
this whole thing is actually quite funny..so ill just watch you "experts" with your 7821 posts and maybe ill become an arrogant ******* someday....damn no wonder rotary owners get bad names...
the simple answer to the whole "flame shooting" thing would have been ..."no" end of story ..
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This is the main reason i never post on here, this forum is a ******* joke.
you have like 3 people who think they know everything and bash on anyone with a different idea or opinion. Then everyone else follows suit.
If anyone needs to grow up, i think its the 99% of people that posted in this thread, especially you RET.
I dont want to get into this argument, but i could tear apart a bunch of the things you said, just let it be known youre not the all mighty rotary know it all you think you are.
you have like 3 people who think they know everything and bash on anyone with a different idea or opinion. Then everyone else follows suit.
If anyone needs to grow up, i think its the 99% of people that posted in this thread, especially you RET.
I dont want to get into this argument, but i could tear apart a bunch of the things you said, just let it be known youre not the all mighty rotary know it all you think you are.
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Now I've had a bottle of a nice central rangers shiraz...
Nice drop that one is... but Anyway! I feel somehow compelled to reply to this thread...
The rx7club has been an _incredibly_ helpful source of information and discussion for me, the people here have occasionally been harsh and unforgiving towards my comments/posts. To me this is a plus though, a big one. I don't have time for bullshit.
But you guys critisizing(spelling?) all these other people for being straight up about their own thoughts and _experiences_ dealing with FC's should maybe stop and think about what would be good for the majority of readers of this forum.
I personally read alllll about the TB mod before I did it to mine, I however, did removed the dashpot(the main throttle one, the only one on an N/A?). But not without knowing full well what it did. As I did with every part I took off my car.
To the original poster, don't get so negative about comments that go off on a slight tangent to what _you_ wanted, they are not always bad.
Anyway back to the topic! I think your porting looks ok, all though I really do doubt the effectivness of porting the throttle body at all, the factory casting does not all _that_ aerodynamically inefficient, at least not to myself..
And while im here hyjacking threads and casting out lines to catch some fishies , I've been hearing for ages about people that have problems with hesitations when removing those two 'extra' butterfly valves in front of the secondary throttle plates, why exactly does this happen? I've never had it happen to me and mine are long since gone.
Nice drop that one is... but Anyway! I feel somehow compelled to reply to this thread...
The rx7club has been an _incredibly_ helpful source of information and discussion for me, the people here have occasionally been harsh and unforgiving towards my comments/posts. To me this is a plus though, a big one. I don't have time for bullshit.
But you guys critisizing(spelling?) all these other people for being straight up about their own thoughts and _experiences_ dealing with FC's should maybe stop and think about what would be good for the majority of readers of this forum.
I personally read alllll about the TB mod before I did it to mine, I however, did removed the dashpot(the main throttle one, the only one on an N/A?). But not without knowing full well what it did. As I did with every part I took off my car.
To the original poster, don't get so negative about comments that go off on a slight tangent to what _you_ wanted, they are not always bad.
Anyway back to the topic! I think your porting looks ok, all though I really do doubt the effectivness of porting the throttle body at all, the factory casting does not all _that_ aerodynamically inefficient, at least not to myself..
And while im here hyjacking threads and casting out lines to catch some fishies , I've been hearing for ages about people that have problems with hesitations when removing those two 'extra' butterfly valves in front of the secondary throttle plates, why exactly does this happen? I've never had it happen to me and mine are long since gone.
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#33
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
as i asked earlier, and was ignored in the little keyboard argument......how much power can actually be gained from tb porting + dashpot removal.....and what are the side effects? is it worth it?
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sorry about me going off on a tangent...RET just nned to lighten up
as far as dashpot removal , i really dont think its gonna add power....just one less thing connected to you motor
as far as dashpot removal , i really dont think its gonna add power....just one less thing connected to you motor
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fn hell... half the posts I've read on here lately have been whiners bitching about people correcting others incorrect info. As though the laws of physics and logic had nothing to do with it, and it's fine if we all have different opinions of how things work...
wonder how well a car company would do if they were happy for all their engineers to have different ideas about which bits did what
correcting dodgy info isn't ragging on anyone, it's saving others from the dodgy info. if people are so stupidly thin skinned that they can't accept they might make mistakes or not know everything, then they shouldn't post explanations for things in the first place.
gah.
wonder how well a car company would do if they were happy for all their engineers to have different ideas about which bits did what
correcting dodgy info isn't ragging on anyone, it's saving others from the dodgy info. if people are so stupidly thin skinned that they can't accept they might make mistakes or not know everything, then they shouldn't post explanations for things in the first place.
gah.
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Originally posted by RETed
We can tolerate only so much crap, before we need to step up and say something. This forum is open to discussion, but be prepared for criticism - not all of it maybe be correct.
If you're thinned skinned, I suggest go elsewhere. We're not here to hold hands and stroke your ego so you don't cry.
Seriously people, the "general public" can only tolerate so much "bullshit". If you're so worried about the bad treatment, why don't you tell all these idiotic posters to be a little intelligent with their posts? Isn't it a double standard you blast the critics, but you leave the idiot alone???
THINK ABOUT IT
-Ted
We can tolerate only so much crap, before we need to step up and say something. This forum is open to discussion, but be prepared for criticism - not all of it maybe be correct.
If you're thinned skinned, I suggest go elsewhere. We're not here to hold hands and stroke your ego so you don't cry.
Seriously people, the "general public" can only tolerate so much "bullshit". If you're so worried about the bad treatment, why don't you tell all these idiotic posters to be a little intelligent with their posts? Isn't it a double standard you blast the critics, but you leave the idiot alone???
THINK ABOUT IT
-Ted
even though Ted help many people and post a ton of helpful info, people will still think he is an *******. http://www.nopistons.com/forums/inde...0&#entry435711
he isnt, and i cant but agree with the last part of his post about the double standard.
#39
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
who said 7club sux? im having a ******* ball over there, these idiots trying to flame me in MY OWN topic, but not about my topic about some stupid little side note.
i said removing dashpots = easier flames.........BAM i got ReTED and 50 other ******** attacking me....best part is i'm slowly and nicely talking them all down.
so rx7club = people who dont know the fury that is kevin.
kevin.
i said removing dashpots = easier flames.........BAM i got ReTED and 50 other ******** attacking me....best part is i'm slowly and nicely talking them all down.
so rx7club = people who dont know the fury that is kevin.
kevin.
#40
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Originally posted by FC3SDrifter82
Edited for flaiming
Edited for flaiming
there's too much said on this forum, that'd never be voiced in life.
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Yeah I hear you. I always thought car forums were there to help other people and share ideas...man how stupid I was!!! Edited for flaming.
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ReTED knows his ****, and i think he helps run that support site, has a lot of helpful **** on it....
im not directing my comments towards him or anyone else...im just saying, this forum has double standards.
im not directing my comments towards him or anyone else...im just saying, this forum has double standards.
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You don't have to direct anything towards him or anybody, you're making a great point by staying general.
And he could be the god of Rotary, but he's no Judge Ito. Ito has tact.
And he could be the god of Rotary, but he's no Judge Ito. Ito has tact.
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Yeah this site loses more and more of it's "charm" every time I venture over here from NoPistons... 7club is like an *** full of poison ivy.
We might be a little rough to newbs over at NP but if you can stand the heat for a week or two we keep you...
We might be a little rough to newbs over at NP but if you can stand the heat for a week or two we keep you...
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its funny cuz i get along with everyone on teamfc3s and nopistons.....
there are some arrogant *** dudes on this site....i dont let it get under my skin though..**** it...
i have asked some questions on here before and had some ******** give me **** for no reason...
i asked abot a custom turbo manifold for an n/a conversion on here before...holy **** !!! you would have thought i had the virgin marry bent over my bed ******* her with the pope watching!! guy just freaked telling me that i am /will blow my motor.....and they said this before they even asked me anything else..
what a bunch of douchebags,,,,,,its really no wonder rx-7's get a bad name..its cuz of a certain few people that drive them have an ego because they claim to be a rotary god cuz they spend all there time in a chat forum...makes the rest of us look bad as well....give me a break ....
there are some arrogant *** dudes on this site....i dont let it get under my skin though..**** it...
i have asked some questions on here before and had some ******** give me **** for no reason...
i asked abot a custom turbo manifold for an n/a conversion on here before...holy **** !!! you would have thought i had the virgin marry bent over my bed ******* her with the pope watching!! guy just freaked telling me that i am /will blow my motor.....and they said this before they even asked me anything else..
what a bunch of douchebags,,,,,,its really no wonder rx-7's get a bad name..its cuz of a certain few people that drive them have an ego because they claim to be a rotary god cuz they spend all there time in a chat forum...makes the rest of us look bad as well....give me a break ....
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There is something funny between rotaries and there owners. See,s alot of the "experts" believe that there was is the only way and if they think something is stupid and you like it than it _MUST_ be immature and you _MUST_ be 17. Being an "expert" from the mr2 forum, it is not supposed to be like this.
The buddy of mine who is a 1st gen guru has this same kind of attitude, maybe I will too after a while as well.... who knows.
The buddy of mine who is a 1st gen guru has this same kind of attitude, maybe I will too after a while as well.... who knows.
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This thread should not be Forum Vs. Forum. it's rediculous.
These forums were created to be a source of useful knowledge and a place to start some stupid threads, and maybe even some general useful information. When i see two forums going at it, i just shake my head in dismay, Close this thread before things get outa hand.
-Markus Reschny.
P.S. What? A guy can't even explain/ask questions about a TB mod without being patronized/critisized (sp) anymore
These forums were created to be a source of useful knowledge and a place to start some stupid threads, and maybe even some general useful information. When i see two forums going at it, i just shake my head in dismay, Close this thread before things get outa hand.
-Markus Reschny.
P.S. What? A guy can't even explain/ask questions about a TB mod without being patronized/critisized (sp) anymore
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I'd better get in before this gets locked...
It's not old guys vs. new guys, that's just stupid. But you'll notice that quite often the younger guys don't like being told that they're wrong by older guys who've been doing this for a lot longer and have already made the same mistakes and learnt from it. If you think we come here because we like slagging off younger people then you need to get a does of reality. We come here to share and gather correct technical info on our cars.
How about you actually read the whole thread instead of just jumping on the whiners bandwagon. In my first post I corrected some wrong info and complimented him on his work. Did you miss that? How about you read the dozens of other threads where the older members share their years of experience and knowledge. How about you contribute something useful to this forum instead of this useless crap.
There is virtually no power gained from this mod. It will improve throttle response on Turbos but makes the throttle less tolerant of overly aggressive use. It will not have this benefit on NA's. It will not make flames. It's worth it if you have a Turbo.
This thread may not be the best place to get the info you want. If you do a search for other TB mod threads (use words like "throttle" and "mod") you'll find more helpful info.
Calling someone a communist and a **** just demonstrates complete ignorance. You obviously have no idea what either is. If you post incorrect info here, you will be called on it. Simple as that. I would hope it's the same in any technical forum. This in not a place where you can defend incorrect technical info by calling it your "opinion" and throwing a hissy fit when several other people tell you you're wrong.
teknics, it's a real shame your thread has turned into this, and I doubt it'll last much longer. I suggest when you've finished the work on your TB you post the pics in a new thread. I'm sure plenty of people (me included) would like to see them.
Originally posted by jaidedeye
this is the reason right here why i hardly ever post here....old guys vs young guys.....
a young guy makes a silly comment and the old guys bitch and argue about it so much that the point gets lost...
this is the reason right here why i hardly ever post here....old guys vs young guys.....
a young guy makes a silly comment and the old guys bitch and argue about it so much that the point gets lost...
hey older more experienced guys..instead of slamming on new, young and unexperienced members,..maybe you should be a mentor in the rx-7 community, teach people what you know and what your theories are instead of shoving them down thier throats and being an ***
Originally posted by Zer0 Cylinder
as i asked earlier, and was ignored in the little keyboard argument......how much power can actually be gained from tb porting + dashpot removal.....and what are the side effects? is it worth it?
as i asked earlier, and was ignored in the little keyboard argument......how much power can actually be gained from tb porting + dashpot removal.....and what are the side effects? is it worth it?
This thread may not be the best place to get the info you want. If you do a search for other TB mod threads (use words like "throttle" and "mod") you'll find more helpful info.
Originally posted by FC3SDrifter82
This whole thread and this board is total bullshit. You all act like a bunch of ******* communists who have nothing better to do but crush ANYBODY who stands in your way and disagrees with you. Step back from the ******* screen and open a goddamn window, you *****.
This whole thread and this board is total bullshit. You all act like a bunch of ******* communists who have nothing better to do but crush ANYBODY who stands in your way and disagrees with you. Step back from the ******* screen and open a goddamn window, you *****.
teknics, it's a real shame your thread has turned into this, and I doubt it'll last much longer. I suggest when you've finished the work on your TB you post the pics in a new thread. I'm sure plenty of people (me included) would like to see them.
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