taking a 2001 lude
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taking a 2001 lude
ok heres the deal.. my friend has a 2001 lude... with intake, headers, cat-back, shortshifter,and a vtec afc.
i have: apexi intake, weight redox... stuff here and there, dual belt underdrive pullies, street port, jacobs' 8.5mm wires/ngk performance plugs, racing beat headers to bact back, short shifter, rp street strip clutch.
how well do you suppose my car could fair against him in a drag?
i have: apexi intake, weight redox... stuff here and there, dual belt underdrive pullies, street port, jacobs' 8.5mm wires/ngk performance plugs, racing beat headers to bact back, short shifter, rp street strip clutch.
how well do you suppose my car could fair against him in a drag?
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Heheh
My dad has a 01 lude, its pretty quick, but I think factory specs only 15.1 or 15.3 on the 1/4 mile? I was hoping for him to give to me but it didnt happen lol, but i did some looking up on parts for it and they dun seem to gain very much from mods (but thats also personal opinion) but I think you would have a decent chance.. then again I am a n00b ;P
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I was talking to a guy from the TO 'lude club. After dropping multiple thousands on performance mods (including V-AFC, but that only improves their power curve) he had net himself 8hp or something. (it was not more than 8)
How much extra power do you think you have over stock? (ie. How big's the street port?) It's quiet obvious in a TII that I have more power than they do dispite not dissimilar theoretical times. I've only really raced them on a road course so that could be somewhat misleading. Going by what I know from your car I'd say it'll be close.
How much extra power do you think you have over stock? (ie. How big's the street port?) It's quiet obvious in a TII that I have more power than they do dispite not dissimilar theoretical times. I've only really raced them on a road course so that could be somewhat misleading. Going by what I know from your car I'd say it'll be close.
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"How much extra power do you think you have over stock? (ie. How big's the street port?) "
ok when i had these power mods: racing beat full exhaust, apexi intake. i was dynoed at 140rwhp ...
after that i got ignition, racing beat spec street port, ported exhaust, ported intake manifold, dual belt underdrive pullies and a rp street-strip clutch
so i really have no idea what ower i migh tbe at
ok when i had these power mods: racing beat full exhaust, apexi intake. i was dynoed at 140rwhp ...
after that i got ignition, racing beat spec street port, ported exhaust, ported intake manifold, dual belt underdrive pullies and a rp street-strip clutch
so i really have no idea what ower i migh tbe at
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5th gen's are porky. Fourth gen's are the cream of the crop.
I think you'll probably take him by about a car, but don't be surprised when he hangs with you all the way till you shutdown.
I think you'll probably take him by about a car, but don't be surprised when he hangs with you all the way till you shutdown.
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only 140 rwhp? did you rebuild the engine when you ported it? What kind of port was it, big or small? With those mods you should be doing better than that. What about your altitude? I have no idea how fast a prelude is, but I don't think they're really fast. Prolly do 60 in around 7 or something.
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only 140 rwhp? did you rebuild the engine when you ported it? What kind of port was it, big or small? With those mods you should be doing better than that. What about your altitude? I have no idea how fast a prelude is, but I don't think they're really fast. Prolly do 60 in around 7 or something.
only 140 rwhp? did you rebuild the engine when you ported it? What kind of port was it, big or small? With those mods you should be doing better than that. What about your altitude? I have no idea how fast a prelude is, but I don't think they're really fast. Prolly do 60 in around 7 or something.
it said he did the porting and other mods listed after the dyno....during dyno he had rb full exhaust and an intake...
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Originally posted by rotary>piston
only 140 rwhp? did you rebuild the engine when you ported it? What kind of port was it, big or small? With those mods you should be doing better than that. What about your altitude? I have no idea how fast a prelude is, but I don't think they're really fast. Prolly do 60 in around 7 or something.
only 140 rwhp? did you rebuild the engine when you ported it? What kind of port was it, big or small? With those mods you should be doing better than that. What about your altitude? I have no idea how fast a prelude is, but I don't think they're really fast. Prolly do 60 in around 7 or something.
You have to rebuild the engine when your port it.
I think the Prelude may take you. An extra 50 hp from the big blue bottle would write a different story.
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"I was talking to a guy from the TO 'lude club. After dropping multiple thousands on performance mods (including V-AFC, but that only improves their power curve) he had net himself 8hp or something. (it was not more than 8)"
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Something that you should never forget is that peak hp/tq DOES NOT win races. Just because he only picked up 8 bhp over his stock peak hp does not mean that he didn't get anything from the mods. I'd much rather have a car that only picked up 5 bhp at peak and has a bump of 25 bhp across the rpm range than a car that picks up 25 bhp at peak and only 5 bhp across the board. It's the area under the curve that counts.
Think of it as strenght in numbers...who would win a guy who's 7'9" (peak hp) or the 15 or so guys who are only 5'5" (rpm band) all around him?
KNONFS, very good point on the not needing forced induction to get power. That's the easy/lazy way of getting the power...what happens after you do everything you can to a turbo motor...where do you get power then?
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Something that you should never forget is that peak hp/tq DOES NOT win races. Just because he only picked up 8 bhp over his stock peak hp does not mean that he didn't get anything from the mods. I'd much rather have a car that only picked up 5 bhp at peak and has a bump of 25 bhp across the rpm range than a car that picks up 25 bhp at peak and only 5 bhp across the board. It's the area under the curve that counts.
Think of it as strenght in numbers...who would win a guy who's 7'9" (peak hp) or the 15 or so guys who are only 5'5" (rpm band) all around him?
KNONFS, very good point on the not needing forced induction to get power. That's the easy/lazy way of getting the power...what happens after you do everything you can to a turbo motor...where do you get power then?
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Originally posted by Snrub
I was talking to a guy from the TO 'lude club. After dropping multiple thousands on performance mods (including V-AFC, but that only improves their power curve) he had net himself 8hp or something. (it was not more than 8)
I was talking to a guy from the TO 'lude club. After dropping multiple thousands on performance mods (including V-AFC, but that only improves their power curve) he had net himself 8hp or something. (it was not more than 8)
CANRX7GX, what model does he have. If he has the SH, it will be slightly slower due to the heavier weight. The base models are commonly seeing 14.9's stock. Assuming he can drive, I think he will take you. He should be in the low 14 second area if he can drive. Yes , it's not a 4th gen, but the 5th gens are no slouches either.
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a friend of mine raced a prelude (with an h22, i guess its the big one, haha) and yeah, he has a 87 gxl stock excpet for strait pipe. he lost by about 1/2 a car length, if you drive good than you will take him.
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I used to have a 98 Prelude, so I hung out with them a lot, got a 90 GXL after that and I had no problem keeping up with them, or passing them. You just have to launch well.
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I raced my friend's 01 prelude SE from a 120km/h roll.
He stayed with me the whole time up to 220km/h ish.
My mods are in the sig.
The prelude had intake and cat-back.
My friend started in 4th while I started in 3rd. He said he wasn't in Vtec when the race started, so the outcome might be different if he started in 3rd.
Good luck YO.
He stayed with me the whole time up to 220km/h ish.
My mods are in the sig.
The prelude had intake and cat-back.
My friend started in 4th while I started in 3rd. He said he wasn't in Vtec when the race started, so the outcome might be different if he started in 3rd.
Good luck YO.
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Yes, that's me with the Prelude. Once VTEC kicks-in, all hell breaks loose. If I had started in 3rd gear or at least had a VTEC controller to flatten the power band, then I likely would have pulled away from pd_day. I started in 4th gear with about 700rpm to go before I hit VTEC.
If both drivers are good, the Prelude will win, but not by much.
On a good day, stock Prelude can do 6.7secs in a 0-60 run. Car and Driver did it in 6.8sec, but I think with the heavier SH model.
GOOD LUCK. I've owned multiple Preludes, Integras, and RX-7s. I wish the RX-7 will win, but based on the mods, it will be close.
If both drivers are good, the Prelude will win, but not by much.
On a good day, stock Prelude can do 6.7secs in a 0-60 run. Car and Driver did it in 6.8sec, but I think with the heavier SH model.
GOOD LUCK. I've owned multiple Preludes, Integras, and RX-7s. I wish the RX-7 will win, but based on the mods, it will be close.
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Alittle more info on the race. We were both alone in the car.
I have a full tank of gas and a sub in the back while he had a 1/4 tank of gas left.
Yup, but by the time you got your vtec controller, I'll have my headers, injectors cleaned with SAFC tuned...
and we'll run again....muhahahihahahah
I have a full tank of gas and a sub in the back while he had a 1/4 tank of gas left.
Yup, but by the time you got your vtec controller, I'll have my headers, injectors cleaned with SAFC tuned...
and we'll run again....muhahahihahahah
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Prelude should own you by a good few lengths. I only pulled an H22 by 4 legnths on a 100 shot pulling a 14.3 to his 15.1 without the bottle I would have been owned good.
They will run a 50 flat and your rex will probally run 15.8 - 15.5 if your a good driver.
Fact is both cars are pretty damn slow in the 1/4.
They will run a 50 flat and your rex will probally run 15.8 - 15.5 if your a good driver.
Fact is both cars are pretty damn slow in the 1/4.
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Originally posted by pd_day
Alittle more info on the race. We were both alone in the car.
I have a full tank of gas and a sub in the back while he had a 1/4 tank of gas left.
Yup, but by the time you got your vtec controller, I'll have my headers, injectors cleaned with SAFC tuned...
and we'll run again....muhahahihahahah
Alittle more info on the race. We were both alone in the car.
I have a full tank of gas and a sub in the back while he had a 1/4 tank of gas left.
Yup, but by the time you got your vtec controller, I'll have my headers, injectors cleaned with SAFC tuned...
and we'll run again....muhahahihahahah
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Originally posted by i8aMR2
Hey Derek, I'll race my bone stock DSM against your suped-up FC too! hahahah! AND I'll run a full tank of gas!
Hey Derek, I'll race my bone stock DSM against your suped-up FC too! hahahah! AND I'll run a full tank of gas!
And just to be fair, one in the fall when I am done my Turbo install =)