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Old 03-11-08, 10:09 AM
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suspension setup??

I have eibach pro's and kyb agx.....Going to get the car aligned today. Should i just get it aligned normally or ask for a lil bit of negative camber for the corners??? Like maybe a 1/2 a degree??? Input is greatly appreciated!!
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If your car is stock there is little adjustment in the front (rotate strut mounts), and no adjustment in the rear. You need to get camber plates for the front and camber adjuster for the rear to be able to dial it in.
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What does spinning the strut mounts mean?? I have installed eibachs and kyb's and notice i have outer tire wear on the front drivers side. Meaning positive camber.
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^that's messed up.... a lower suspension would create inner wear due to negative camber, no?

I'm a suspension newb, so take what I say as a grain of salt.

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hahahahah good one! i know i cannot figure out why!!
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The top of the front struts are off center. Check it with a tape measure if you can't tell by looking at it. So, you can rotate the front strut assembly (I forget what you need to loosen to do so), to put the top more inside and to the rear.
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will the alignment shop know to do this???
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Maybe, maybe not. It only has a very small effect though.

Basically you can ask for whatever you want, but they'll only be able to give you what's already there in the back, and only a slight alteration in the front, unless you want to run "crash bolts", which are a poor way of getting camber, as they can slip, they compromise wheel and tire clearance and they only work on the front.
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Is there another way to adjust camber? Because the shop said they couldn't adjust the camber any further on mine and they only needed half a degree more.

So, not knowing about RX-7s specifically, what else might they have tried?
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In the front, if you loosen everything then tighten it back up while pulling/pushing on it to maximize the camber from any little bits of slop that can get you a little bit. Other than that and what's been said already there's really nothing you can do. You could slot the holes for the strut tops and move them in a bit, but that's not really a preffered method. In the rear there's really nothing to do other than buy a camber rod and/or individual adjusters (caution: using only the individual ones can and does lead to binding).
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So my front right camber is screwed up due to some minor frame damage. About 1 degree different from the left. The alignment shop recommended a camber bolt. Is there any other option?
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Fix the frame damage. Also, if you're on sagging stock springs with the driver's side sitting lower that can cause a difference.
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New springs and shocks. Where do I go to get frame damage fixed and how much does it usually cost? And how do they make sure the alignment will be good after they fix the frame? I mean, seems like 1 degree or less would be hard to just straighten out via eyeballing.
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Originally Posted by Black91n/a
Maybe, maybe not. It only has a very small effect though.

Basically you can ask for whatever you want, but they'll only be able to give you what's already there in the back, and only a slight alteration in the front auto body part , unless you want to run "crash bolts", which are a poor way of getting camber, as they can slip, they compromise wheel and tire clearance and they only work on the front.
But they must know it. If you work in an Auto shop, then it is expected that you know this. If you work for an auto shop, then you have to be expert in cars. It sickens me if people who work for auto shops doesn't know anything about cars.
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Well it's pretty esoteric knowledge. Many, many FC owners don't even know, so don't be surprised if they don't know. Not all mechanics do it because that's what they want to do and because they're car nuts, for many it's just a job.

With frame damage they'll usually put the car on a rack and pull it straight. There's a number of reference measurements that they'll try to match. A good, larger body shop should be capable of doing it.
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Find a shop that builds race cars locally and let them have at it, they may not specialize in RX7s but they will know the tricks and how to get the best out of a car.
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Couldn't a bit of inward toe also cause the outer of the tire to be worn? I realize it's only one side, but if it's very minimal toe in, it COULD cause that wear. Am I wrong?
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Originally Posted by Bama420
Couldn't a bit of inward toe also cause the outer of the tire to be worn? I realize it's only one side, but if it's very minimal toe in, it COULD cause that wear. Am I wrong?
I'm not sure on that particular potential cause, but you bring up the very valid point that something OTHER than excess camber could cause his wear problems.
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