gxlbiscuit

i have an idea for us stubborn/cheap/resourceful people who want to get more air to there stock IC. it would make the opening about 47.25square inches (18x2 5/8ths)from the stock 20 square inches(. it would have to help with cooling being its intake area is more than twice that of stock ) it would also move the intake closer to high pressure area so more air would go in that way. anyone think they can make it? keep your negative comments to yourself. and i dont want to hear "the stock tmic sucks" it doesnt suck its placement sucks. if anyone thinks they can make something that would look stock just bigger pm me. it would still have the same curves as stock

3RotorRocket

Not a bad idea at all, to bad my friend that did work like that died

YearsOfDecay

Go get yourself some balsawood and some fiberglass and go to it.....

However.. You do realize that in order to see any real benifit.. you'll have to cut the hood up.. extending the upper part of the cutout back to the front of the intercooler

you couldn't just alter a stock insert because the internal cross section at the rear of the insert would still be about 20 square inches........ Well, you would get more air, but the restriction at the bottle neck would hinder it.

I could alter a stock insert to look like what you want in a weekend and have it glassed, bonded and ready for paint...

but.. If i were going to to that.. I'd just alter the entire hood making the entire IC tunnel from opening to the IC dump area bigger and integrating it into the hood rather than fabbing up an insert.

also.. I'd get one of those old HKS upgrade TMIC's if you can find it.. they are about 25% bigger than stock.

finally.. the stock TMIC sucks.... its just to freakin small to handle anything over the stock boost levels.

Kai

It's an interesting idea, but I'm with YoD- you probably won't see any benefit from it.

I'm doing a budget front-mount myself based on a Volvo 760 intercooler (AKA a $30 junkyard special.)

gingenhagen

no, i would say it is the position. People have taken the stock ic and placed in the front with excellent results.

coldfire

iTrader: (1)

i say modify the hood so you can also put an e-fan on the TMIC also. that way you get less heat soak when you aren't moving very fast

YearsOfDecay

Actually.... i think there are e-fans that would fit without hood mods... but.. this would REALLY restrict the flow when it is not on!!

gxlbiscuit

in order for me to do something like that i would need an extra hood and scoop its could be dinged and beat to hell.. as long as i had something to start with
.. but my car isnt the guinea

gxlbiscuit

oh and i wouldnt modify the hood because that changes the simplicity of the add-on design

gxlbiscuit

checked it out fans are a baaaaaaaaad idea

dag

The hood scoop is in a low pressure area no matter how you slice it. If you want performance gains on the cheap just mount the stock IC up front.

coldfire

iTrader: (1)

i was kind of thinking the fan would be on the underside of the IC so maybe it wouldn't restrict the cooling on the frontside so much...but who knows, really you want that FMd anyways, ahaha

gxlbiscuit

thats falls under the "stock mounts sucks" category......... hush up unless you are presenting a solution INCLUDING STOCK MOUNT :-P.. muhahahahaha also the hood scoop is being moved foward into a higher pressure area jus a lil didnt my initial post mention that........

DoStampIt

Yeah, low pressure ...what do you think that means no airflow? LOL, how does an airplane fly? Big low pressure ontop of the wing....think there is much airflow on the top of a wing

Agent_D

iTrader: (2)

^ lol yea, low pressure doesnt mean there is not any air.

i think it might increase the efficiency of the stock mounted IC, should increase air velocity going in and slightly increase volume of air going in, considering that the stock "duct" probably has limited air flow capability, but even if the stock duct uses the max amount of volume that can go in, velocity would still be increased resulting in better efficiency since the air would be moving fast enough to keep it from heating up as much.

but i could be wrong, since i dont know a lot about IC's and turbo's, im an n/a guy if it works like the coolant system, more velocity might not be a good thing, like in the cooling system if you remove the thermostat the water moves freely and doesnt absorb any of the heat from the places that need to dissipate that heat and it reduces the efficiency overall.

gxlbiscuit

valid point thanks man i guess people feel its there role to prove people wrong on here. either way its being forcefed more air

DoStampIt

Dude, don't get discourage...the tmic does work at speed....however it does not take much for the IC to get overwheelmed by heat. I was cruising at 90ish in my TII and had an intake temp gauge.....just boosting 3-4 psi constantly i watched the temps go up and not cool untill i was off the throttle.....it just needs a bigger scoop and it would help....but this will do nothing for sitting in traffic heat soak.

renagade_rotary

the top mount is good idea
save money

and no u cant fmic the top mount cause im already doing that on my gsl-t2
so step off its mine

gxlbiscuit

that is true but it would cool it faster. and where did you get an air intake temp gauge i have always wanted one.

renagade_rotary

oh and if anything the heat sheild is keeping it from flowing better


HEAT SOAK = INEVITABLE


either from the engine or from the road during the summer heat soak cant be avoided

RX_AV8TR

Somebody already thought about that about ten years ago, I've only seen one car with it, Gardy Palacios from "Mecanica El Psiquiatra" in Puerto Rico has it on his TII, it looks awesome, looks like factory option. I'll try to get in touch with him for pics and see if he has a mold.

renagade_rotary

yeah well thats in puerto rico

btw

<----700

gxlbiscuit

there is a rotary god!!!!!!!!!!!

gxlbiscuit

POST ***** hahahahaha.. wait what did i just do MUHAHAHA

renagade_rotary

but on topic

cut the heat sheild off your ic and put a bigger scoop it will cool better when it needs to be cooled

again heat soak is inevitable if u want to still deflect the heat fromk the engine and ur rats nest is removed

attach your heat sheild to the engine block and not the ic