nitrous is a beautiful thing if you know how to use it. it just gets a bad rap....kinda like the rotary engine. Turbo and nitrous...now thats a combo. they might say real men get blown but the really fast cars out there use both so dont let them fool you. thats just what turbo guys say cause they are afraid to use nitrous.

 

turbo is more efficient and there are many more options available with a turbo.

 

im gonna go with the turbo , i want the powerband they can offer and i know they are awesome when done right, i have the 88 se so if im correct it was one of the lightest models made and its already been gutted out so whatever i do ill be quick if not fast. now i just need to do a bunch of research to find the best fast/streetable setup heh, thanks for the input guys and yes a sc is unique but i dont want to spend so much money on it and be limited to power and boost when a turbo comes cheaper and more efficient.

 

DDDDOOOOOOHHHH!! I did it again, i forgot that Gabe was on my computer earlier yesterday, so this is my post accually. Sorry fellas.

 

I was toying with the idea of putting an SC on my 88 vert- but didn't like the idea of carbing it- and now I see the EFI manufacturer (theracingstore.com) is here in my town! Time to start saving the pennies! Got a few drivetrain issues to iron out first (LSD, new clutch)

 

Hey introVert. If you go down there would you ask them about using some of there throttles on the Racing beat upper intake that was made for side draft DOCE carbs? And what microtech they would suggest using?

 

as far as the s/c over-revving at around 6500 rpms, someone needs to do their homework. Look at the Eaton M90. It is the one that Ford put on the Thunderbird SC. This one can spin safely to over 13K rpms. It is also a lot cheaper than buying the nelson/Paxton kit, which isn't made anymore as far as I remember. It is just a matter of fabbing your brackets and doing some testing to find the right size pulley. well, obviously there is more to it than that, but if you can do your own fab work, you could do this for a lot less than the $3-4K that you could spend on a kit. It is also intercooled in the Fords and GM cars that use it, and I would use an IC for this in a 7 as well, so then you have to put together the ducting. Overall, I can tell you that the T-bird with the stock 3.8 V6 is a dog, but the SC 3.8 V6 is a HUGE difference. My T-Bird SC is also a stick, which just kicks ***--I have driven the automatics, and the stick is smooth. I have a spare M90, so I am looking at it now for the 7. I know it won't be as much power as some turbos, but I am not trying to get my 7 to run 12's in the quarter either.

If you look at Atkins, they only make a kit for carbs, but they have been working on one for the EFI. hopefully should be done this year.

 

I've been casually looking into superchargers on ebay over the last week and have seen the Ford roots SC for the thunderbird go for $300ish . . . and another one that caught my eye was off the Mercedes Kompressor engine, being a roots type with an electromagnetic clutch on the pulley so you can turn it off if you are just cruising and don't need the boost (and parasite drag on the engine).

But I have to correct my earlier remark about not needing an intercooler. At least with roots type compressors, IC's seem mandatory for any real boost. Doing your own bracket, pulley, and duct work plus an on-off switch and some form of boost control would make one unique sleeper FC for less than $1000 in parts.

 

That is exactly what i am saying--the cost is a lot less. I saw the Mercedes units too--they would be a lot easier to fit because they do not have the long snout that the standard M90 has. In order to fit the Ford M90, you have to have clearance most of the way back to the firewall. Fitting an intercooler and the ducting is easier because of the room in the engine compartment. you would also have to have a piece fabbed that would connect your ducting from the bottom of the sc. Some people have said that you would need to have a custom intake manifold done, and this would be sweet, but that is when you start getting up in the cost again. I would love to have that done, and when I get more cash I will look into having a custom im done, but it isn't needed to make it work. It would make it a much cleaner look though.

 

I was thinking of using my lower six port manifold with a TII center and upper manifold bolted to it . . . then the IC pipes from the FMIC leading to the SC with the throttle body connected to its input flange using a machine shop adapter . . . all fed by my ram air intake of course

That would be sweet to keep the NA smoothness but with some more low end torque.