2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.

Starter Wiring and Grounds

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 05:35 PM
  #1  
toastiepenguin's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 333
Likes: 0
From: San Diego
Starter Wiring and Grounds

Watsup everybody,

Car: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Sport Manual 5sp w/ 1988 GXL Motor N/A

So I dropped in a used motor with a reman. starter in and the main wiring to the starter has been giving me a hard time. So far I've wired the solenoid correctly (thought the neagtive wire coming from the battery was seemed short) and I didn't get even a click or noise from the soleniod when I go to crank the car.

I search a bit on this topic and found that it wasn't my ignition switch, not the starter obviously, wasn't the clutch switch, so it must be faulty wiring or maybe a burnt relay for the starter???

I've attached a picture of the ground wire that I guess connects to the starter but seems to be short. When I did search I found people saying that it's suppose to connect to the long mounting bolt the starter uses.

Is this true?
If so what ground connects to the starter?

Thanks

-Jon
Attached Thumbnails Starter Wiring and Grounds-2.jpg  
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 05:48 PM
  #2  
JFR's Avatar
JFR
1.3?!?!
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 217
Likes: 0
From: Toledo
First remove your starter and follow the directions to test it in the Haynes manual. If the starter works for sure, go from there. I have experienced the same as well.
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 05:52 PM
  #3  
compuskills's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 248
Likes: 0
From: Hawaii
Originally Posted by toastiepenguin
Watsup everybody,

Car: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Sport Manual 5sp w/ 1988 GXL Motor N/A

I've attached a picture of the ground wire that I guess connects to the starter but seems to be short. When I did search I found people saying that it's suppose to connect to the long mounting bolt the starter uses.

Is this true?
If so what ground connects to the starter?

Thanks

-Jon
Yes that is true the ground wire goes to the bolt.
The starter then grounds to the engine and the ground wire via the bolt sorta like chassis ground.
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 08:36 PM
  #4  
toastiepenguin's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 333
Likes: 0
From: San Diego
Hey thanks compuskills, this would make sense why it would not start cuase the whole engine block would not have a direct ground from the battery.

Thanks

-Jon
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 11:41 PM
  #5  
Mombodogs's Avatar
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 759
Likes: 0
From: Vallejo, CA
A small bit of input. My starter recently "quit" on me. Checked and cleaned grounds, checked battery, checked alternator, one time cold, starts, next time, not. When hot, same thing. Ball peen hammer, even before the starter was struck, (it seemed) would fire right up. Jumper directly from battery to starter, every time. Problem-bolt on solenoid was loose, not a good connection all the time. Solution, either wire in a toggle switch to start it directly from the battery, or replace. New tires, new starter, TPS, AFM, water pump, and on and on. Got a 5000-vert, my son's mind you, and I'm looking for another one.

I LOVE THE ROTARY MASTERPIECE! I WILL I COULD OWN MORE OF THEM! Moral of the story, the dog has been drinking, but these cars parts, like every other make and model, wear out. Enjoy!!!!!!!!!!

PEACE THE DOG
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2006 | 01:31 AM
  #6  
toastiepenguin's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 333
Likes: 0
From: San Diego
Nice spelling ability while drunk! haha

Anyways I tried re-grounding my reman. starter like you said to do compuskills. But I took a multimeter to the starter lead, the smaller one of the bunch, and I got a reading of 1.9 volts so I think thats why the soleniod itsn't even triggering.

Any ideas why the starter lead isn't getting 12volts, or what whould cause it to have low voltage?

By the way the batt. is at 12.5volts so...
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2006 | 03:00 AM
  #7  
Mombodogs's Avatar
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 759
Likes: 0
From: Vallejo, CA
Trust me, I am no electronic person in any aspect of phrase, but is the voltage reading you are getting with, or without the ignition turned on? Have you tried to run a wire directly from the positive terminal on the battery, to the starter directly to see if it engages?
Is your reading while the starter is being engaged, or just sitting?

PEACE THE DOG
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2006 | 03:49 AM
  #8  
Carzy Driver's Avatar
Law Breaker
Tenured Member: 15 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 3,333
Likes: 0
From: S.F. Bay Area, California 510
test for resistance for both the main power cable and the starter ground
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2006 | 04:45 AM
  #9  
KillaKitiie's Avatar
Bongolio
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,556
Likes: 1
From: visalia,california
Make sure you grounded the tranny to the firewall on the passenger side next to the wiper motor. If thats good look for missing grounds thats what it sounds like to me bud.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2006 | 06:47 AM
  #10  
My5ABaby's Avatar
Rotaries confuse me
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 4,219
Likes: 3
From: Murfreesboro, TN
When you turn your car to Start, do you lose all power? If so, check your battery terminals. Put a multimeter on them (or the wiring that you bolt into them) and have someone turn your key to Start. Is there voltage going through them?
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2006 | 09:47 AM
  #11  
Aaron Cake's Avatar
Engine, Not Motor
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 29,798
Likes: 128
From: London, Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted by rotorman85
Make sure you grounded the tranny to the firewall on the passenger side next to the wiper motor. If thats good look for missing grounds thats what it sounds like to me bud.
This ground has nothing to do with the starter.
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2006 | 06:00 PM
  #12  
toastiepenguin's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 333
Likes: 0
From: San Diego
OK so I got it figured out the other day. Somebody before I owned the car did a GM Goodwrench alarm on it and at one point I fried the alarm and so I was getting a constant 1.9volts at my starter lead wire. I fixed by yanking the whole system out, piece of crap...
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
rgordon1979
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
40
Mar 15, 2022 12:04 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:40 PM.