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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 12:02 AM
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Something went down the LIM, need advice.

I am dumb enough to drop a nut down the LIM tonight, and it seems like it went down quite far, i can't even see it with a flash light from up top. I Drained the oil/coolant, disconnected everything required to take out the LIM. But once the LIM is off I still didn't see the nut. I can't really see anything through the port either (very limited view considering standing on the passenger side fender looking down).


Anyone have any good idea for taking that nut back out without tearing the engine apart? (I have never tried and i don't know how, well at least i don't know how to put it back in one piece and make it run..)



I am gonna have a nightmare tonight....
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 12:21 AM
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Which runner did it fall down? I once had a little plastic cap fall into the rear intake runner, which fortunately stopped before falling into the combustion chamber. If you dropped a nut, fishing a magnet on a bendable rod into the port would be a good idea. If it fell in, you can try removing the exhaust manifold, then rotate the engine by hand to see if it will pop out.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 12:35 AM
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It fell through the front intake runner (the 4th one if counting from the firewall), i tried to fish it but no luck, guess i will take down the exhaust tomorrow and try rotating the engine.

Btw when i took out the LIM, i noticed a feed line came from the brake booster that connects to the LIM, when i just checked the FSM, it shows that it is suppose to be on the UIM, and I was trying to replace/reroute all the vac lines and i only had 2 nipples at the back of the UIM instead of 3 (for s4 TII).
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 12:39 AM
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try using a shop vac
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 01:29 AM
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Be very careful rotating the engine with debris inside..if it starts to feel like it's getting stuck, it's probably crushing that hardened nut into the soft housings.

If it were me, I'd probably make damned sure I couldn't get it out with a magnet on a stick, via every hole in the engine....then I'd pull the engine and try and fish it out that way.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 07:57 AM
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I dropped a nut in once removing the UIM, a magnet fished it easily.

Get one that has a flexible shaft
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 09:49 AM
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if its in the combustion chamber then yeah exhaust port would be how i would get in there. just make damned sure its not hung up in the manifold before you do all that work
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 10:58 AM
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use compressed air...shoot it down the opposite runner for the same rotor that you dropped something down, it should pop out.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 01:40 PM
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Hahaha I did the same thing about 4 years ago. Tried everything. Shop vac doesn't have enough pull. Depending on how big it is (if it's a nut then you should be ok) you should be able to get it out using one of those magnets on a flexible rod. Mine was a 12mm socket. Had to get the car towed to a dealership where they used an electromagnet to get it out. Huge pain in my *** but it's a quick lesson in WHY YOU SHOULD ALWAYS STUFF A RAG INTO THE RUNNERS.
Good luck! Let us know if you get it.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NightHawkR
It fell through the front intake runner (the 4th one if counting from the firewall), i tried to fish it but no luck, guess i will take down the exhaust tomorrow and try rotating the engine.

Btw when i took out the LIM, i noticed a feed line came from the brake booster that connects to the LIM, when i just checked the FSM, it shows that it is suppose to be on the UIM, and I was trying to replace/reroute all the vac lines and i only had 2 nipples at the back of the UIM instead of 3 (for s4 TII).
Sounds like you've got a JDM UIM/LIM. On USDM cars the brake booster feed line connects to the back of the UIM, on a JDM it connects to the LIM. Not a big deal as long as both manifolds are JDM.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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You put a rag in any intake runners BEFORE you drop something in there. haha, sorry to be so cruel. Anyways magnet, compressed air, try everything before you turn that motor, even if you are turning it by hand. GL.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 03:47 PM
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We have all done this. A shop vac or a magnet should get it out. Worst case scenario, you might have to take off the lower intake manifold to get a magnet in the intake ports. The only instance that I couldn't retrieve a nut was when it never actually fell in. It landed under the primary rail, out of sight. Good luck!!
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 06:16 PM
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DID that and got the Tshirt.
Fixed it by taking the Lower manifold off..it was Right THERE..(got it before it fell inside the Engine).
I honestly thought I would have no problem changing injector Grommets..BUT,my finger slipped and WHAM it went in!!!
NOW?.I know.put RAGS in manifold..ALWAYS>ALWAYS!!!!
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 06:44 PM
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I was going to say as last resort tilt the car and shake the **** out of it till it came out
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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Try to position the the rotor in the best possible position to fish it out with a magnet. Sounds like a bad idea to try and push it out the exhaust side, its gonna get pretty tight when you come around on the compression stroke.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 06:51 PM
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^ Rotate the engine backwards...Slowly...It will likely be removable through the intake port.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 11:07 PM
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Finally got that damn nut out after messing around for couple hours, thanks for all above.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 12:21 AM
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Which way did it come out. through the manifold or through the exhaust?

I dropped a socket down into the oil pan through the cas hole. luckily i fished it back out though
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 12:24 AM
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Came out from the exhaust after rotating the engine.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 03:09 PM
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Now hope your housing is ok after all this.
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