2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.

size of s/s water and oil lines for to4 turbo

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 19, 2002 | 11:12 PM
  #1  
fc3s94509's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 124
Likes: 0
From: NORTHERN BAY AREA
size of s/s water and oil lines for to4 turbo

im planning on a installing a to4 turbo and i was hoping i can get some advise from you guys that already did this. i am looking for kinda like a parts list of what i need to install the turbo like oil and water lines and fittings sizes, so i can go buy this stuff

Last edited by fc3s94509; Feb 19, 2002 at 11:17 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 12:18 AM
  #2  
RETed's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,664
Likes: 22
From: n
Smaller is better for inlet - get -3 or -4.
Larger is better from outlet/drain - minimum -10, but try to see if you canget -12 or bigger.
Beware, those fittings are BANK!



-Ted
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 12:36 AM
  #3  
fc3s94509's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 124
Likes: 0
From: NORTHERN BAY AREA
thanks RETED FOR THE INFO. SO THE WATER AND OIL INLET SHOULD BE -3 OR -4 AND OUTLETS BIG-12
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 12:57 AM
  #4  
RETed's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,664
Likes: 22
From: n
Those are for the oil lines, the water lines are not that important - in fact, don't even bother with the water cooled center (did you buy the turbo yet?).&nbsp You can use normal heater/coolant hose for the water lines, but if you insist on SS AN stuff, you can go with -6 stuff.




-Ted
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 02:28 AM
  #5  
fc3s94509's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 124
Likes: 0
From: NORTHERN BAY AREA
no i did not buy the turbo yet. does the turbo have to be water cooled? is that what you mean about don't bother with the water cooled center. i think i will be getting the 60-1 , is that a good turbo, i would like to see 400+hp can you give me some ideas on the specs for the turbo. and yes my fuel will be taken care of also ...
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 03:16 AM
  #6  
RETed's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,664
Likes: 22
From: n
Yeah, get a "dry" center; the water-cooled center just adds more hoses and complexity.

Sure, the 60-1 can pump out 400 to the wheels!



-Ted
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 10:46 AM
  #7  
fc3s94509's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 124
Likes: 0
From: NORTHERN BAY AREA
thanks RETED YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!!! I WILL GET A 6O-1 WITH A DRY CENTER. DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT THE SPECS ONE THE TURBO.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2002 | 11:08 PM
  #8  
RETed's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,664
Likes: 22
From: n
60-1 is the compressor section, so all you'll need is the specs for the turbine section.&nbsp I'd go with a P-trim and 0.84 A/R for a street car...



-Ted
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2002 | 12:22 AM
  #9  
Scott 89t2's Avatar
SOLD THE RX-7!
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 7,451
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
is that .84 for the compresser side exhaust should be over 1 for a ported engine shouldnt' it?
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2002 | 12:33 AM
  #10  
RETed's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,664
Likes: 22
From: n
Unless you wanna get a totall divided manifold (with the divided turbine housing), the power will lag a bit versus the stock turbo.&nbsp The 1.0A/R should kick in about 4kRPM (with a collected HKS cast manifold), but the 0.84 would be a more streetable version - boost should kick in almost like stock...



-Ted
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2002 | 12:38 AM
  #11  
Scott 89t2's Avatar
SOLD THE RX-7!
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 7,451
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
but will the .84 give you 400+ HP that he wanted?

and of course you want a divided turbo/manifold just costs more...
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2002 | 12:44 AM
  #12  
RETed's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,664
Likes: 22
From: n
Originally posted by Scott 89t2
but will the .84 give you 400+ HP that he wanted?
The turbine A/R dictates powerband.&nbsp It doesn't really affect peak power output.&nbsp Small the turbine A/R, the lower the powerband, but you risk choking the top-end.&nbsp Larger the A/R, the higher the powerband.&nbsp It's a delicate balance with rotary turbos since they rev so high, so you need to run (typically) larger A/R's than piston engines.&nbsp Most (street) piston engines run arund 0.50A/R!



-Ted
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2002 | 09:48 PM
  #13  
fcturbo2's Avatar
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,611
Likes: 0
From: LA.,California USA
How hard is it to make your own S/S oil lines???..

TED what do you think of my turbo (not installed)
TO4B
.60 v trim
.96 ptrim
undivided/ on center with HKS cast manifold
At what RPM should the turbo kick??.i will have a ported motor.
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2002 | 03:35 AM
  #14  
RETed's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,664
Likes: 22
From: n
Originally posted by fcturbo2
How hard is it to make your own S/S oil lines???..
Not very if you follow the instructions included!

TO4B
.60 v trim
.96 ptrim
undivided/ on center with HKS cast manifold
At what RPM should the turbo kick??.i will have a ported motor.
I've been in a car that ran a V-trim - the boost kicks in REALLY QUICK!&nbsp We're talking around 3kRPM, and it hits real hard!&nbsp They only problem is that the on-center turbine housing will not fit on the engine with the HKS exhaust manifold. Test-fit everything to see if this is true or not.




-Ted
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2002 | 07:44 PM
  #15  
fcturbo2's Avatar
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,611
Likes: 0
From: LA.,California USA
As far as fitment the only problem i heard was that the compressor hits the frame rail. It sucks i know!..But will grinding the frame rail be all that bad for the car??...

TED- did the car you rode on had a stock IC??..I will be using a custom NPR FMIC which is bigger than the starion unit and im worried about lag..
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2002 | 08:30 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 519
Likes: 2
From: W LA USA
Originally posted by fcturbo2
How hard is it to make your own S/S oil lines???..

Where can I get the kit to make my own S/S oil lines???

C
Reply
Old Feb 22, 2002 | 08:38 PM
  #17  
RETed's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,664
Likes: 22
From: n
Originally posted by fcturbo2
As far as fitment the only problem i heard was that the compressor hits the frame rail. It sucks i know!..But will grinding the frame rail be all that bad for the car??...
Oh man, that's not something I would recommend to do.&nbsp Pay the <$300 to get the tangential housing, and everything will fit fine.


TED- did the car you rode on had a stock IC??..I will be using a custom NPR FMIC which is bigger than the starion unit and im worried about lag..
That car actually had a 2-180 Spearco core, so it was a decent sized front-mount IC...



-Ted
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2002 | 12:34 AM
  #18  
fcturbo2's Avatar
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,611
Likes: 0
From: LA.,California USA
http://www.1300cc.com/howto/how2/adrian.htm

This guy is running the same set-up. He has the same turbo and manifold. Notice how he had to bang the frame rail in a bit to clear the turbo?..its not too bad i think.
Reply
Old Feb 23, 2002 | 12:49 PM
  #19  
RETed's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,664
Likes: 22
From: n
I would recommend to swap out with a tangential turbine housings rather go wacking at the car...

Boy, the things you do to save money!


-Ted
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
FD7KiD
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
15
Feb 26, 2021 10:12 PM
BLK 93
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
4
Aug 19, 2015 03:47 AM
Frisky Arab
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
13
Aug 18, 2015 05:30 PM
FD7KiD
Single Turbo RX-7's
1
Aug 17, 2015 11:50 PM
KAL797
Test Area 51
0
Aug 11, 2015 03:47 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:53 AM.