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Old 06-11-08, 12:09 PM
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Hello all, just have a couple doubts or questions as to what vehicle I should get myself into for drifting.

I have been out of the scene for a while and focused on driving an s13 after sadly selling my white FC to pay some bills anyways, I live in Asia now and have been contemplating a car for quite some time; so before jumping to what car I should get, consider that cars here sell for much more expensive than they do in the US. i.e. s13's sell for about 13k US dollars in crappy condition so do 86's, and FC's for close to 10k and so forth and so on . So in making my decision it is very important to consider budget. (btw dont get me started on the outrageous price for the new GTR!)

Well Im interested in an FC for drifting as mentioned above. I've found 1 that is lightly modded but for the most part well taken care of. Price wise is generally worth what cars go for here not so outrageous but then again its a 22 y/o car.

I want to know if these cars are good for drifting per se. I've been told that they are not, and that they require inmense amount of modification to the suspension before they can be drifted well.

I'd like to know how much modification I would need to add in order to make a good drift car. Im not particularly new to drifting but certainly not with FC's.

I have searched far and wide on the net and talking to people and not much info is available. Nobody in this side of the pacific is good with rotary, parts are not really available so they are not so popular.

I got bashed in the 3rd gen section because I wanted an FD (price is similar to US) but owners dont want to see another FD crashed blah blah blah. So anyways, I want to know what needs to be fixed, changed etc in order to make the car work well for drift. Also, what is adequate boost at stock turbo or mildly modded motor.

Thanks for any advice. Sorry my post is so damm long.
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http://fc3spro.com/TECH/DRIFT/DCOMPARE/dcompare.html
http://fc3spro.com/TECH/DRIFT/dori.html
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Ok i had ran into this article prior to posting and it is quite helpful. Is there any other input from drivers that could advise me on the topic?
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You also would need to get a DTSS eliminator, coil overs(you can't install camber plates on the stock struts which is a must for a good drift setup). If you already have a 240 I'd stick with it.

The rx7 of course gets you more style points and if you're planning to get good at drifting you'll need power which is easier for an rx7, having factory turbo options helps a lot. People don't really realize just how much stuff needs to be replaced when turboing an NA engine so it's alot nicer to have an engine already built for the task. I'd definetely go with an fd if they are as close in price as you say simply because you'll get a much better rear suspension. But just like the FD guys told ya, please don't **** up the body and then just ditch the car; those things are rare enough.
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I am a drifter and a 1988 TII owner.
Keep in mind that the rx7 is known for being one of the hardest to drift. Silvias are known as the easiest. I use to have a 86 300zx turbo and it was easier than my 7. heh But i got used to it quick. Its all about PRACTICE. Not the tune of your car. A good driver can adjust his style to not have to adjust the tune of the car.

This are the monds i recomment. And most rx7's come with LSD.
1. LSD Factory Turbo model
2. Coilovers. I got mine used for 600 bucks
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Basically, go for coilovers and DTSS eliminators.

You said you're in Asia now, right? That means you should only see turbo FCs, which means every one you look at should have an LSD. You would be better off with an S4 clutch-type LSD, if possible
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the guys to talk to.. angryearl,dorifto *i forget his sn* lindsey, and boostinmys5

this is an old video from the early 90s.. im sure stuff like angle kits and dtss eliminators probably did not exist yet, so im sure the setups where mild coilovers and factory lsd.. but i could be wrong
http://youtube.com/watch?v=J3UOisIpqzk
the cars look fairly stockish.

Not really much aftermarket for the Fc compared to the 240s, i used to have a 240 and had just about every suspension piece on it..

Cheap things to do besides buying coilovers, welded diff is very popular if you have a open diff.. and cheap/free to do provided you can weld or have access.

DTSS elminator bushings are like $30 on ebay.

Remove rear sway bar, alot of guys do it with the FC, tho you wont find much documentation about it on the net, people just prefer the feeling.
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Ok thanks a lot for the info you guys. I will certainly take it into consideration. Im still debating whether to get the FC or the 180sx.

The FD is too pricy yet similar price as in the US. The cars Im debating on are about equally modded so it just depends I guess on what I end up picking.

Thanks though I may have to contact you guys personally for some info.
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personally if you want to do alot more drifting, to me sticking with a silvia or 180 would be the better bet, i think that the parts availability is greater with silvias and 180. they are definently easy from what i have heard and my past with driving them, granted i have never owned an rx7

The S14 is the easiest chassis to drift to me.

But if you have a good Diff you can drift anything
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Yea I hear that but since the cars are already super expensive my budget is to go cheap (haha) as if that were possible here. But spending nearly 10k for an FC that has been moderately modded leaves me with the thought that I dont want to spend much more into it just to make it drift.

The 180 will cost me around 15k Us dollars and well the only thing about that is that silvia's are pretty much ready to go. This one still will need a bit of work but it wont be much. The FC just worries me as to whether its as bad as people here are telling me. i.e. that needs lots to be modified to the suspension in order for it to drift, or that they are just flat out too unreliable etc etc.
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I drift with 180,000miles on old DTSS. **** the dtss. I just drift. I dont look for excuses.

LSD and coilovers and thats all you need to start practice. Once you get to practice it will be many many years before you need to upgrade your car for competition. So save your money for tires.
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You should post this in the drifting section for more replies.
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wow, well thanks so far for your input. Its very good impression. Im sure that through practice one can learn how to handle the car.

Im just considering what is a better choice based on price, availability of parts, and not requiring so much to start off drifting. Things here are already WAYYYYY too expensive so if you can understand why I have to keep my costs down as hobbies are already freaking expensive as is.

The 180 seems like the best choice (sadly) but since I dont know much about rotary motors I think its the way to go. I have not found any kind of information that has been really assuring that I would be getting into something great.

Thanks for all your input ill keep you guys posted if I get the FC so you guys can help me. Thanks again.
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I bought a beat up fc for 1000 dollars. It hasnt been the reliable car that i need.
Maybe if i had started with a car in car in better shape, things owuld have been diff.

If you are not knowledgable in mechanics, I suggest you pick the car that is commonly tuned in your area.

As in, shoppes in your area are more familiar with sr20det/CA18det or rotaries?
Many shops cannot be trusted with a rotary engine.
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