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I'm sure this question has been answered a million times, but I haven't been able to find an answer.
I recently deleted the rats nest on my car. Along with that, a lot of vaccum lines came out. I'm trying to determine which vaccum ports are for the injector air bleed.
Are the highlighted lines below correct? If so, can I just route these vac lines directly to the dynamic chamber?
You do need those two highlighted lines, but not for the reason you think.
There are exactly five vacuum lines you "need" on the dynamic chamber.
One is the forest green one that is the middle nipple on the front. This is the injector air bleed you mentioned. It should always be connected, makes a big difference in idle quality.
One is the large molded one (topmost nipple on the front) that provides air to the OMP injectors. Clear on the front diagram.
One is the light green one you can see on the end of the dynamic chamber. This is the vacuum signal for the fuel pressure regulator. The orange solenoid it runs through is supposedly to help hot starting. I've noticed no difference with / without solenoid but you should keep it anyways imo. In the diagram it changes to purple post-solenoid.
Then the two that you highlighted on the back, red and forest green. Those are for the PCV system. If you have an oil catch can then you may use a different setup, but stock the bottom one is for the vacuum signal (small bottom nipple on the PCV valve), the top one is for the outlet on the PCV valve (top small nipple), and the large bottom nipple on the PCV valve goes to the oil filler neck port. Then the smaller port directly below on the middle iron goes to the hardline on the firewall that comes from the charcoal canister.
EDIT: Also, the way you've highlighted them is not the way they actually run. They do run down to the spider in stock applications, but the come out nearer the PCV valve. They do not run along to the back of the LIM as highlighted. In your case, with the spider deleted, you can just run straight hose and make a small bracket for the PCV. Unless you have a catch can set up already, in which case you can cap them and forget about it.
EDIT: Also, the way you've highlighted them is not the way they actually run.
i've found that the diagram just lacks resolution, so i'll take the hose off on each end and make sure its connected (more of a problem on the turbo and S5 NA, where there are two racks) and then i get to make sure its in the right places too.
also i've seen racks that have plugged pipes, and not sure with what, but i was able to clean em out
You do need those two highlighted lines, but not for the reason you think.
There are exactly five vacuum lines you "need" on the dynamic chamber.
One is the forest green one that is the middle nipple on the front. This is the injector air bleed you mentioned. It should always be connected, makes a big difference in idle quality.
One is the large molded one (topmost nipple on the front) that provides air to the OMP injectors. Clear on the front diagram.
One is the light green one you can see on the end of the dynamic chamber. This is the vacuum signal for the fuel pressure regulator. The orange solenoid it runs through is supposedly to help hot starting. I've noticed no difference with / without solenoid but you should keep it anyways imo. In the diagram it changes to purple post-solenoid.
Then the two that you highlighted on the back, red and forest green. Those are for the PCV system. If you have an oil catch can then you may use a different setup, but stock the bottom one is for the vacuum signal (small bottom nipple on the PCV valve), the top one is for the outlet on the PCV valve (top small nipple), and the large bottom nipple on the PCV valve goes to the oil filler neck port. Then the smaller port directly below on the middle iron goes to the hardline on the firewall that comes from the charcoal canister.
EDIT: Also, the way you've highlighted them is not the way they actually run. They do run down to the spider in stock applications, but the come out nearer the PCV valve. They do not run along to the back of the LIM as highlighted. In your case, with the spider deleted, you can just run straight hose and make a small bracket for the PCV. Unless you have a catch can set up already, in which case you can cap them and forget about it.
So, just to clarify:
The blue line is for the FPR vaccum, red is for PCV, and the yellow line is the air bleed?
In the FSM, the yellow line goes to the front of the manifold, but in the diagram you sent, it routes to the back. Which is the correct routing for this line?
So, just to clarify:
The blue line is for the FPR vaccum, red is for PCV, and the yellow line is the air bleed?
In the FSM, the yellow line goes to the front of the manifold, but in the diagram you sent, it routes to the back. Which is the correct routing for this line?
Yes, blue is for the FPR (solenoid optional).
Red is for PCV, but without the spider you need to run them directly to it.
The correct routing for the yellow line (air bleed) is the one going to the front of the manifold, down directly between the primary intake runners.
I'm not sure what's going on with the one running to the rear in some diagrams. It also says "sub zero starting fluid valve" which is actually on the upper intake. So something is up with those diagrams.
Red is for PCV, but without the spider you need to run them directly to it.
The correct routing for the yellow line (air bleed) is the one going to the front of the manifold, down directly between the primary intake runners.
I'm not sure what's going on with the one running to the rear in some diagrams. It also says "sub zero starting fluid valve" which is actually on the upper intake. So something is up with those diagrams.
Got it. So the yellow line is incorrect in the diagram I just sent? It's supposed to route on the side of the manifold facing the engine down between the OMP injectors and primary injectors?
Got it. So the yellow line is incorrect in the diagram I just sent? It's supposed to route on the side of the manifold facing the engine down between the OMP injectors and primary injectors?
Correct, it should go down from the dynamic chamber to the side of the manifold facing the engine between the OMP injectors and primary injectors.
Correct, it should go down from the dynamic chamber to the side of the manifold facing the engine between the OMP injectors and primary injectors.
Got it! Thank you.
Not sure why the FSM doesn't specify that. On the page after that diagram, it makes mention of the air bleed, but it's not labeled. Also strange how the diagram itself is different
02-11-22, 11:15 PM
