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Old Nov 18, 2001 | 08:51 PM
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Running 12-13's

Whats it take for the T2 to run atleast 12's-13's? I haven't toyed around with any rotary..right now I have an s13 240 waiting for an sr..but i am interested in fixing up a T2.. I might even trade in the s13 to add a little to my project funding.. but anyway..whats the most cost efficient way to run atleast low 13's?

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Old Nov 18, 2001 | 09:29 PM
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300HP should get you into the low 13's / high 12's. You'd need fuel system upgrades (pump, rails, injectors), boost controller, exhaust & air intake upgrades, and a fuel cut defender.

You might want to just go straight to an aftermarket ECU. Get some gagues as well.
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Old Nov 18, 2001 | 09:51 PM
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...drag radials!
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Old Nov 18, 2001 | 09:53 PM
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a friend of mine has a 88 10th ann. that runs mid-high 12s. He has put $600(US) into mods for it. Yes, only 600. He has intake and exhaust, a few gauges, and a FCD. nothing else. his car is very fast for what he has done to it. He still uses stock fuel system. I don't recommend doing what he did- I am a lot safer with my mods. So far though, he hasn't had a problem.

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Old Nov 18, 2001 | 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by ponykiller
a friend of mine has a 88 10th ann. that runs mid-high 12s. He has put $600(US) into mods for it. Yes, only 600. He has intake and exhaust, a few gauges, and a FCD. nothing else. his car is very fast for what he has done to it. He still uses stock fuel system. I don't recommend doing what he did- I am a lot safer with my mods. So far though, he hasn't had a problem.

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and how long has it been running?....

leaner is faster but it won't last too long.
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Old Nov 18, 2001 | 11:33 PM
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Ya I don't see needing 300rwhp to get in the low 13s. I mean thats about 125 more rwhp than stock. With the lighter cars we have, the HP goes further. Drop a few hundred lbs & add 75rwhp and you should be on your way to 13s I would think.
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Old Nov 19, 2001 | 12:08 AM
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I can hang neck to neck with my friends new Mustang Corba. All I have is RB turbo back, 680cc, FPR,intake, no AC,PS.
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Old Nov 19, 2001 | 12:41 AM
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new pump and injectors? i thought the fc had 4 550cc injector.. which is supposedly good enough up to that?..oh and its gonna be my daily driver so i wouldnt sacrifice realibility over it..i need good clean reliable hp.. i have experience with working with pistons..but never worked with any rotary.. so i hardly know anything that goes in it.. besides..two triangles.. would a rebuild be necessary? it should help..how much would one go for? or can i do this myself? what parts would i need to replace the older parts?
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Old Nov 19, 2001 | 12:48 AM
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im supposing this is on an upgraded turbo?.. or would the stock turbo do? what are fairly decent sized turbo for the 13bt?
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Old Nov 19, 2001 | 01:15 AM
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hey your in portland! sup man. what does your car look like? where ya live around?
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Old Nov 19, 2001 | 01:29 AM
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you'll be pushing the stock turbo and injectors pretty hard at 300hp (flywheel) you will need bigger injectors to run there, which also means a bigger pump. you will also need a bigger IC at basicly anything over 250hp or so. rebuilding the engine would help, but rebuilding and porting at the same time will help alot. a bigger t04 turbo will get you into the 400+ range if you have the fuel to back you up. but it's not cheap.

talk to www.pineappleracing.com there are in your area and can help you alot.
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Old Nov 19, 2001 | 09:03 AM
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13's will be easier than 12's turborotor got a 13.7@99.99 mph last week. with stock engine, haltech, full exhaust, intake, stock intercooler, and 720cc secondaries, walbro pump. if you want 12's you will all that and a FMIC, 850cc-1200cc secondaries., upgraded turbo. you might hit 11's with all that though
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Old Nov 19, 2001 | 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by Ryde _Or_Die
Ya I don't see needing 300rwhp to get in the low 13s. I mean thats about 125 more rwhp than stock. With the lighter cars we have, the HP goes further. Drop a few hundred lbs & add 75rwhp and you should be on your way to 13s I would think.
I tend to agree, fastrotaries '89 dynoed at 207hp at the wheels, and he runs 14.1 with awful 60 ft times at the Wall outside San Angelo , TX. I think at a better track (or maybe a better launch?). He sould be solid in the 13's.

PS this is on the stock engine, turbo and intercooler with worn out drag radials.

just my $.02
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Old Nov 19, 2001 | 11:20 AM
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Last season I ran a 13.7 with a blown engine.
Video below.
http://home.rmci.net/panther/13_7.avi

*88 J-Spec engine *Bonez Intake *Upgraded Pro Turbo
*Greddy Turbo Timer *RP Air/Fuel Monitor *Apex GT Exhaust
*Greddy FMIC *Walbro Fuel Pump *720cc Secondaries
*Apex SAFC *Greedy Type R Blow Off Valve
*Apex S-AVCR Boost Controller *Bonez Downpipe
*Jacobs Rotary Pro Ignition *3" Turbo Inlet Duct
*Red Silicone Vacuum Lines *Magnecor 10mm Wires
*Optima Red Top Battery *Throttle Body Mod
*Ported and Polished Intake *Suspension Specialties Sway Bars
*Falken Tires-205/55/R16 Front 245/50/ZR16 Back
*RB FCD *2700 LBS. *270 RWHP *Hurst Roll Control
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Old Nov 19, 2001 | 05:06 PM
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i have alot done to my car and i just recenty upgraded the turbo to a t04b and put on the new greddy front mount, hks , ignition,720cc secondaries, and a tt supra pump. Before that i ran a 13.2 @104. That was last year. Now that i added all that stuff except the intercooler i ran 12.8 @105, 108, and 109. After the intercooler install i ran a 12.8 @115,12.7 @116, and a 12.6 @116....this is all without a boost controller also. the boost bounce all over the place. Without slicks its hard to run good times. im getting a pair of slicks and then it should run an 11. if not......anybody want to buy a car....... laterz
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 02:01 AM
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whats an fcd? what are good times to run on gxl? can it make it to 13s?
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 02:09 AM
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my best time is a 13.5 w/stock turbo@13psi on street tires. my 60 foot time was a bad 2.1 and rear hop
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 02:35 AM
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Originally posted by rxzero
whats an fcd? what are good times to run on gxl? can it make it to 13s?
An FCD is a resistor that tells the engine computer that you're running less boost than you actually are, to avoid hitting the boost cut.

A GXL would be tough to get into the 13s without some form of forced induction, but anything's possible with enough $$ and time.
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 02:36 AM
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I'm gonna be shooting up to Oregon sometime before Christmas. We are setting up a division out there.

I would say that 13's with an N/A would only be possible by Bridgeporting or Peripheral Porting and going with a carburated setup. No more Fuel Injection. Racing Beat is almost done producing the carburated intake manifold kit for the 6 ports. I'm waiting for that. Oh yeah, drivetrain issues though. Get T2 stuff and a tach cause you'll continue to pull through the 9k rpms.

That's what I'm doing with my 88 GXL. The 89 T2 is going to have the T3/T4 hybrid with F-Con and stuff and the widebody 89 T2 is going to be all custom setup for roadracing at club events and possibly circuit when I can afford to sponsor a driver.

Race All motor with a 1.3 pushing 300 bhp, damn that's some ****.
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 03:06 AM
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hey can i have a job? when you open?
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