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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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Removing side seals

I am about to whoop *** my rotors to get the side seals out. Well on 2 of my rotors half of the side seals are stuck in it. I have soaked them in purple stuff for 1 week now trying to free them. Still no lock there froze up inside. Does anyone have suggestions before I grind a screwdriver down and chisel them out.
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 03:35 PM
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purple stuff?
we always used parts cleaner or carb cleaner,
soak them in that overnight and use an old side seal to try to pry it out.
good luck, never ran into this sort of problem.
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 03:53 PM
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Parts cleaner wont even toutch them much weaker cemical then purple. Soaked them in liquid wrench for the hell of it, nothing. Had them in parts cleaner for 3 days nothing didnt even toutch the carbon. Carb cleaner, well when I get done rebuilding this nikki carb I will soak it in its spot.
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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Did the corner seals come out? If they did, you should be able to get under the side seals with some sort of fine pick.
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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^ That is the reson I have half of a side seal stuck in it. Actualy half of the corner seals broke getting them out.
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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Ford has a carb cleaner that foams and doesn't evaporate. Comes in the standard aerosol can. Pricey but works well. You can pick it up at the dealership parts counter.
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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Please don't use a screwdriver or other chisel like tool! You will damage the rotor. I have had success using an old hack-saw blade that I grind a steep angle on the toothed side. The included angle of the back-side of the blade and ground angle is abuot 15-20 degrees. Use a bench grinder, disc grinder, belt sander, or whatever. Then grind about a 30 degree angle on the end (tooth-side also) for about a 1/4". This will fit in the slot and get under the seal. Angle the tool in slot so the second angle is flat to the floor of the groove. Tap on it lightly with a drift. You may want to keep the total length of the tool down to around 2-3". Good luck! Don't forget to de-burr your tool after grinding it. Slight rounding with a stone can help prevent damage.

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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 06:34 PM
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Please don't use a screwdriver or other chisel like tool! You will damage the rotor. I have had success using an old hack-saw blade that I grind a steep angle on the toothed side. The included angle of the back-side of the blade and ground angle is abuot 15-20 degrees. Use a bench grinder, disc grinder, belt sander, or whatever. Then grind about a 30 degree angle on the end (tooth-side also) for about a 1/4". This will fit in the slot and get under the seal. Angle the tool in slot so the second angle is flat to the floor of the groove. Tap on it lightly with a drift. You may want to keep the total length of the tool down to around 2-3". Good luck! Don't forget to de-burr your tool after grinding it. Slight rounding with a stone can help prevent damage.
excellent idea. to the garage i go!!@
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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I'm sorry if I did not explain completely. You need to be able to get under the seal. If Ice has both side seals stuck and an intact side seal. this complicates things. Maybe break the side seal intentionally?
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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a blade that is 2 mm + hammy, lightly
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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Probably not the BEST idea to soak the rotors in Purple heavy-duty cleaner. What about the rotor bearings?

Ice, try soaking them with a lube, such as WD40, then pushing up and down on them in the attempt to get the spring to break loose. Then, try pushing on them 'sideways' from the corner-seal slot, using another side-seal for pushing. (obviously one that you don't care about).

Then, either using the side-seal as the 'picking' tool, or another small pick, try gently prying up on either side of the side-seal. Switch back and forth on either end of the seal and begin digging under it. Make sure you're not 'bending' the side-seal up though, since they will break very easily, causing you to have to start over in a sense. Put pressure on the top of the seal, while you pry up from underneath, this will help distribute the pressure better in the hopes that the seal doesn't break.
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyD89
I'm sorry if I did not explain completely. You need to be able to get under the seal. If Ice has both side seals stuck and an intact side seal. this complicates things. Maybe break the side seal intentionally?
the only way mine were going to come out was by breaking them.
the hacksaw blade worked marvelously. just the kind of knowledge i was looking to get. thanks tony.
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by eriksseven
Probably not the BEST idea to soak the rotors in Purple heavy-duty cleaner. What about the rotor bearings?

Ice, try soaking them with a lube, such as WD40, then pushing up and down on them in the attempt to get the spring to break loose. Then, try pushing on them 'sideways' from the corner-seal slot, using another side-seal for pushing. (obviously one that you don't care about).

Then, either using the side-seal as the 'picking' tool, or another small pick, try gently prying up on either side of the side-seal. Switch back and forth on either end of the seal and begin digging under it. Make sure you're not 'bending' the side-seal up though, since they will break very easily, causing you to have to start over in a sense. Put pressure on the top of the seal, while you pry up from underneath, this will help distribute the pressure better in the hopes that the seal doesn't break.
that was my approach to use a broken side seal but they are too thin and just break. i just got mine out by using the hacksaw blade. perfect thickness.
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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You need to check that groove. I don't know the why's of your rebuild, but my seals were stuck because of contact. They were crushed. Rotors trashed anyway. Once again. Good Luck! Stuck at the center of the seal is where mine was crushed. Hear its typical of contact.

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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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if they're rusted in there from a blown coolant seal you may as weel look for other rotors.
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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sideseals are good at getting sideseals out
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