Removing side seals
11-28-05, 02:55 PM
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Removing side seals
I am about to 
whoop *** my rotors to get the side seals out. Well on 2 of my rotors half of the side seals are stuck in it. I have soaked them in purple stuff for 1 week now trying to free them. Still no lock there froze up inside. Does anyone have suggestions before I grind a screwdriver down and chisel them out.
whoop *** my rotors to get the side seals out. Well on 2 of my rotors half of the side seals are stuck in it. I have soaked them in purple stuff for 1 week now trying to free them. Still no lock there froze up inside. Does anyone have suggestions before I grind a screwdriver down and chisel them out.
11-28-05, 03:35 PM
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purple stuff?
we always used parts cleaner or carb cleaner,
soak them in that overnight and use an old side seal to try to pry it out.
good luck, never ran into this sort of problem.
we always used parts cleaner or carb cleaner,
soak them in that overnight and use an old side seal to try to pry it out.
good luck, never ran into this sort of problem.
11-28-05, 03:53 PM
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Parts cleaner wont even toutch them much weaker cemical then purple. Soaked them in liquid wrench for the hell of it, nothing. Had them in parts cleaner for 3 days nothing didnt even toutch the carbon. Carb cleaner, well when I get done rebuilding this nikki carb I will soak it in its spot.
11-28-05, 06:29 PM
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Please don't use a screwdriver or other chisel like tool! You will damage the rotor. I have had success using an old hack-saw blade that I grind a steep angle on the toothed side. The included angle of the back-side of the blade and ground angle is abuot 15-20 degrees. Use a bench grinder, disc grinder, belt sander, or whatever. Then grind about a 30 degree angle on the end (tooth-side also) for about a 1/4". This will fit in the slot and get under the seal. Angle the tool in slot so the second angle is flat to the floor of the groove. Tap on it lightly with a drift. You may want to keep the total length of the tool down to around 2-3". Good luck! Don't forget to de-burr your tool after grinding it. Slight rounding with a stone can help prevent damage.
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Originally Posted by TonyD89
Please don't use a screwdriver or other chisel like tool! You will damage the rotor. I have had success using an old hack-saw blade that I grind a steep angle on the toothed side. The included angle of the back-side of the blade and ground angle is abuot 15-20 degrees. Use a bench grinder, disc grinder, belt sander, or whatever. Then grind about a 30 degree angle on the end (tooth-side also) for about a 1/4". This will fit in the slot and get under the seal. Angle the tool in slot so the second angle is flat to the floor of the groove. Tap on it lightly with a drift. You may want to keep the total length of the tool down to around 2-3". Good luck! Don't forget to de-burr your tool after grinding it. Slight rounding with a stone can help prevent damage.
11-28-05, 06:41 PM
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I'm sorry if I did not explain completely. You need to be able to get under the seal. If Ice has both side seals stuck and an intact side seal. this complicates things. Maybe break the side seal intentionally?
11-28-05, 07:02 PM
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Probably not the BEST idea to soak the rotors in Purple heavy-duty cleaner. What about the rotor bearings?
Ice, try soaking them with a lube, such as WD40, then pushing up and down on them in the attempt to get the spring to break loose. Then, try pushing on them 'sideways' from the corner-seal slot, using another side-seal for pushing. (obviously one that you don't care about).
Then, either using the side-seal as the 'picking' tool, or another small pick, try gently prying up on either side of the side-seal. Switch back and forth on either end of the seal and begin digging under it. Make sure you're not 'bending' the side-seal up though, since they will break very easily, causing you to have to start over in a sense. Put pressure on the top of the seal, while you pry up from underneath, this will help distribute the pressure better in the hopes that the seal doesn't break.
Ice, try soaking them with a lube, such as WD40, then pushing up and down on them in the attempt to get the spring to break loose. Then, try pushing on them 'sideways' from the corner-seal slot, using another side-seal for pushing. (obviously one that you don't care about).
Then, either using the side-seal as the 'picking' tool, or another small pick, try gently prying up on either side of the side-seal. Switch back and forth on either end of the seal and begin digging under it. Make sure you're not 'bending' the side-seal up though, since they will break very easily, causing you to have to start over in a sense. Put pressure on the top of the seal, while you pry up from underneath, this will help distribute the pressure better in the hopes that the seal doesn't break.
11-28-05, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyD89
I'm sorry if I did not explain completely. You need to be able to get under the seal. If Ice has both side seals stuck and an intact side seal. this complicates things. Maybe break the side seal intentionally?
the hacksaw blade worked marvelously. just the kind of knowledge i was looking to get. thanks tony.
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Originally Posted by eriksseven
Probably not the BEST idea to soak the rotors in Purple heavy-duty cleaner. What about the rotor bearings?
Ice, try soaking them with a lube, such as WD40, then pushing up and down on them in the attempt to get the spring to break loose. Then, try pushing on them 'sideways' from the corner-seal slot, using another side-seal for pushing. (obviously one that you don't care about).
Then, either using the side-seal as the 'picking' tool, or another small pick, try gently prying up on either side of the side-seal. Switch back and forth on either end of the seal and begin digging under it. Make sure you're not 'bending' the side-seal up though, since they will break very easily, causing you to have to start over in a sense. Put pressure on the top of the seal, while you pry up from underneath, this will help distribute the pressure better in the hopes that the seal doesn't break.
Ice, try soaking them with a lube, such as WD40, then pushing up and down on them in the attempt to get the spring to break loose. Then, try pushing on them 'sideways' from the corner-seal slot, using another side-seal for pushing. (obviously one that you don't care about).
Then, either using the side-seal as the 'picking' tool, or another small pick, try gently prying up on either side of the side-seal. Switch back and forth on either end of the seal and begin digging under it. Make sure you're not 'bending' the side-seal up though, since they will break very easily, causing you to have to start over in a sense. Put pressure on the top of the seal, while you pry up from underneath, this will help distribute the pressure better in the hopes that the seal doesn't break.
11-28-05, 07:14 PM
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You need to check that groove. I don't know the why's of your rebuild, but my seals were stuck because of contact. They were crushed. Rotors trashed anyway. Once again. Good Luck! Stuck at the center of the seal is where mine was crushed. Hear its typical of contact.
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