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Old Dec 3, 2011 | 08:02 PM
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removing metal under intercooler

has anyone tried removing the metal piece under the inter cooler to provide better cooling? i can see why the stock ic heats up so quick. it barely has any room to breathe.

would it be ok to remove the piece then coat the tb/uim with heat resistant spray paint so it wont soak up heat from the ic?
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Old Dec 3, 2011 | 08:51 PM
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you got it reversed.

the shield is there to prevent the heat coming off the engine to soak directly into the intercooler. the intercooler never is hotter than the engine, ever.
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Old Dec 3, 2011 | 09:06 PM
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you got it reversed.

the shield is there to prevent the heat coming off the engine to soak directly into the intercooler. the intercooler never is hotter than the engine, ever.
ic but arc and hks tmic have no shield so im guessing that it would be safe to remove it. air flow from the hood will cool the ic and engine if its removed.

has anyone successfully done this without any overheating problems or detonation? lol
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Old Dec 3, 2011 | 09:10 PM
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how many people do you see running around with those top mounts still?
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Old Dec 3, 2011 | 10:00 PM
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Provided the right hood and proper ducting, v-mount will be your best friend.
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 12:35 AM
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how many people do you see running around with those top mounts still?
good point not that many but tmic has less piping and bettter throttle response? im going to remove it and try installing a small electric fan below it haha
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 12:41 AM
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the throttle response issue that the pencil pushers made up is a myth.

you may notice a difference if you mounted the IC in the back of the car with alot of bends in the piping though.
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by LoLsmileyFC
ic but arc and hks tmic have no shield so im guessing that it would be safe to remove it. air flow from the hood will cool the ic and engine if its removed.
has anyone successfully done this without any overheating problems or detonation? lol
In the HKS kit, they have likely removed the shield for clearance. The core is much thicker than the stock, so they run out of room quickly.

Why would you want to remove it? The shield is a heat shield, and as well it directs air through the intercooler and down into the transmission tunnel. You're not going to gain anything with removal other than higher intake air temps.
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 01:00 PM
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Also if it's your daily, you getting no flow through it at stops hence the temp will rise quick without the shield. The hks and so forth tmic are designed to be used on cars that do some racing, fine and dandy if your constantly moving and forcing air but on your street car it's gonna be a negative.
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 04:25 PM
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Doesn't the metal shield also act as a rain gutter as well?
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bamato
Doesn't the metal shield also act as a rain gutter as well?
yes but i'd say that wasn't the main reason for it.
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 05:06 PM
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But certainly an additional reason to keep it for the OP.
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 05:15 PM
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Also if it's your daily, you getting no flow through it at stops hence the temp will rise quick without the shield. The hks and so forth tmic are designed to be used on cars that do some racing, fine and dandy if your constantly moving and forcing air but on your street car it's gonna be a negative.
computer case fans anyone?

measured the length of the ic. it measures to 300mm. im planning on getting 2 170mm fans and somehow mounting it under the ic then plugging it to the battery. since most fans run on 12volts it shouldnt be a problem. a on/off switch will probably do the trick too.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...d=1&name=170mm

should i get red or blue lights? haha jkjk...

but then the rain would be an issue. planning fab up a heat shield with more clearance and probably run the fans under it.

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In the HKS kit, they have likely removed the shield for clearance. The core is much thicker than the stock, so they run out of room quickly.

Why would you want to remove it? The shield is a heat shield, and as well it directs air through the intercooler and down into the transmission tunnel. You're not going to gain anything with removal other than higher intake air temps.
I checked the clearance of the metal sheet to the ic. It barely has any room to move the air effectively. to be more exact more like 1-2 inches.

Some people on this forum run up to 12 psi on the stock ic, 10 psi to be safe.
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 05:19 PM
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i have a picture in my head of someone trying to reinvent the wheel. looking at the round object saying "i can do that better!"

sure it may help, some
sure it will probably be problematic
sure it takes effort

but is it worth it?

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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 05:26 PM
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i have a picture in my head of someone trying to reinvent the wheel. looking at the round object saying "i can do that better!"

sure it may help, some
sure it will probably be problematic
sure it takes effort

but is it worth it?


yeah it is if one liked how the stock ic looked and wanted to keep it

idk ill post pics up as soon as im done with my ricer mod
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 05:51 PM
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it's not ricer, i just feel it's a waste of time. i have a feeling those fans won't last long in that environment.
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