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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 07:10 PM
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recommend me a good coilover set for the vert

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.ca/viewit...id=54832967976

I was looking at those ^since apparently they come with chamber plates too (or do all kits do? )


I was told to not go to godspeed products.

Looking to spend 1000 or less.
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 07:42 PM
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Ksport! I can speak from experience... I have them on my vert... and love them!
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 08:30 PM
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I can not vouch for Ksport, friend bought new ones for his LS400 , blew a shock within 2 weeks, but they where cool enough to send him 2 replacements.

I have megans, they are ok for street, but not my favorable brand. If i was looking for new coilovers, I would go with these http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/page.php?9
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 09:06 PM
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You are not going to get anything good for under $1,000. A good setup is usually about $1,100 to $2,000. If you are drifting, then you don't need anything nice anyway, so I wouldn't worry about it.

Godspeed, K-Sport, Megan, Buddy Club, and D2 are cheapie Chinese/Korean coilovers that drifters like because they are cheap. I'm not sure if there is a lot of difference between those brands, as it is possible that they use the same Asian suppliers.

Camber plates do not always come with the coilover kit, and sometimes the kit requires parts from the car's OEM struts. Note that many of the cheapie camber plates have no bearings or poorly-made bearings, so keep that in mind when shopping.
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Im not drifting, i just want something thats adjustable and something that is better than just lowering springs.

Do the meagans seem decent? They say it is 32 way adjustable compared to the godspeed 16 way.
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PnoyRx7
Im not drifting, i just want something thats adjustable and something that is better than just lowering springs.

Do the meagans seem decent? They say it is 32 way adjustable compared to the godspeed 16 way.
This is like the 50000000th thread on this, but I have a friend who loves his d/d 7 on GodSpeed coilovers.

The KSports are of comparable ride quality to my old KYB AGX and Tein S.Tech setup. But the Ksports are 32 way vice only 4 way, and adjustable ride height obviously.

Basically if you're spending under 1100, it doesn't matter which brand you get. There are going to be the people that say that they suck but have never used them, because they're so cheap. Just read the review threads on here to help make a good decision.

"Whats the best coilover for less than 1000 bucks?" is like asking "which one of you all are the smartest retard?"
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 10:34 PM
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You are not drifting..then what do you want them for?.looks?..because you can spend 1000 bucks?
.I HAD Megans,and I don't drift..You know why I sold them?.they Suck!..Hard Ride like a Freakin Lumberwagon..feel every bump in the road.
I hope you like to dodge Gravel.You will feel that too.
Although they are adjustable,KYB-AGX's are just as good a Street shock.Put on a set of lowering springs and call it a day.Or get sleeves and adjust your height.
Seriously,If you are not gonna use the coilovers fr what they are intended for(aggressive track style driving),then Why buy them.
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MIDNFauciUSN
There are going to be the people that say that they suck but have never used them, because they're so cheap.
Conversely, there are going to be people that say that the cheapie Korean/Chinese crap is good, but they have never used a good, race-quality setup that has been professionally adjusted and corner-weighted because they're so expensive.

Originally Posted by MIDNFauciUSN
"Whats the best coilover for less than 1000 bucks?" is like asking "which one of you all are the smartest retard?"
Agreed!

Originally Posted by PnoyRx7
Im not drifting, i just want something thats adjustable and something that is better than just lowering springs.
Now I am confused. So you just want to lower your car? If so, do you want it slammed so low that it scrapes the ground, or do you want to be able to drive around the city and not hit speed bumps?

Also, keep in mind that if you use rear shocks that have the adjustment **** on the top, then you will need to remove your convertible's interior every time you want to adjust them.

Originally Posted by PnoyRx7
Do the meagans seem decent? They say it is 32 way adjustable compared to the godspeed 16 way.
It is a common myth that more settings mean better performance. If you look at actual race cars, some of them may even have non-adjustable professional-grade shocks that are perfectly set up for the course. You can read more about shocks here:
Autocross to Win (DGs Autocross Secrets) - Shocks

Originally Posted by misterstyx69
Although they are adjustable,KYB-AGX's are just as good a Street shock.Put on a set of lowering springs and call it a day.
I put KYB AGX and Racing Beat springs on my convertible. I really like the setup because it lowers the car enough for good performance, but I don't need to worry so much about hitting speed bumps or driveway curbs, or tearing up my tires on the fender. The KYB AGX rear dampers can be adjusted without removing the interior, so that is nice, even though I rarely adjust them (plus, it's only one click when I do). In my opinion, the convertible makes for a better road cruiser than a race car, so that is how I am keeping it set up. It is much easier to drive on the street than my coupe with its roll cage, full Mazda Motorsports Koni / Eibach ERS coilover suspension, and super-stiff mounts and bushings.
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 10:22 PM
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i have megan tracks, 12kg front and 10kg rear.. they do ride a bit crazy. i can even feel a coin in the road.. but that is why i LIKE them. it all depends on preference.. some people sell them or get rid of them for the same reason why i love mine..

although i do wish i bought the PBM's that hypertek posted
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 08:40 AM
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Ive personally put 20,000 DD miles on some pretty harsh roads with my D2's. Full weight vert and slammed as well. Ive autocrossed and driven them hard, hit nasty pot holes, fly over train tracks everyday, and driven VA beachs' shittiest roads. Not one blown shock, i get compliments from people who never ridden in a lowered/coilovered car and also people who have on the ride comfort. 10.5KG all around and damping set half way all around. Now if you have a stupid light racecar gutted drift missle, yeah its going to ride like ****.
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by lim_fc3c
Ive personally put 20,000 DD miles on some pretty harsh roads with my D2's. Full weight vert and slammed as well. Ive autocrossed and driven them hard, hit nasty pot holes, fly over train tracks everyday, and driven VA beachs' shittiest roads. Not one blown shock, i get compliments from people who never ridden in a lowered/coilovered car and also people who have on the ride comfort. 10.5KG all around and damping set half way all around. Now if you have a stupid light racecar gutted drift missle, yeah its going to ride like ****.
mine are 12kg and 10kg, and 4 clicks away from full hard, and i drive LA streets all day long.. i love it, gets a little crazy at times.. but nothing beats downshift, 40mph beat the yellow turn signal turns hahaha
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
It is a common myth that more settings mean better performance. If you look at actual race cars, some of them may even have non-adjustable professional-grade shocks that are perfectly set up for the course. You can read more about shocks here:
Autocross to Win (DGs Autocross Secrets) - Shocks


I put KYB AGX and Racing Beat springs on my convertible. I really like the setup because it lowers the car enough for good performance, but I don't need to worry so much about hitting speed bumps or driveway curbs, or tearing up my tires on the fender. The KYB AGX rear dampers can be adjusted without removing the interior, so that is nice, even though I rarely adjust them (plus, it's only one click when I do). In my opinion, the convertible makes for a better road cruiser than a race car, so that is how I am keeping it set up. It is much easier to drive on the street than my coupe with its roll cage, full Mazda Motorsports Koni / Eibach ERS coilover suspension, and super-stiff mounts and bushings.
THAT^

As the owner of three Verts, two fairly high performance at about 300whp, the best bet to step up the best handling performance of a Vert in my experience is RB springs, RB Sway Bars, and a good bushing kit rather than coil overs. I'd go Tokico HP's (Blues) with a set of aftermarket camber plates rather than KYB's, but that's my personal preference.

If your vert will be primarily used for track and/or if you're primarily looking for the slammed lowered look and don't car about what it does to the street drivability (i.e. dread every driveway, speed bump, rail road crossing, etc), only then think coil overs.
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 10:29 AM
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i went with coilovers mostly because i like to run a wider tire than stock, with stock wheels in the front. I really didnt want to fork the money replacing all the cusions and rubber pieces on the stock struts itself and for the same amount i weighed out my options. I figured i can get coilovers, set it at the height i wanted, and run 225/50/15's on my stock vert wheels without rubbing. I also have poly bushings, rear camber bar, pinion stubber, no rear sway. and 25mm spacers in the rear(no where near hella flush y0) but the sunk *** end is crap with stock wheels :/
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 10:46 AM
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+1 for AGX's.
However the only problem with running lowering springs or even ground controls is that it doesn't get you low enough, especially in the front. If you get the RB lowering strut mounts you can get to a nice ride height but by the time you do that you might as well just get a set of cheap coilovers.

That is exactly why I ended up w/ K-sports. They aren't top of the line, but they are better than any lowering spring combo, and better than all but the high-end (koni) ground control setups. Plus I got them brand new for what a new for less than the cost of stock style struts and camber plates.

12k/10k is a retarded high spring rate for an FC. Why not weld in some steel tubes w/ threaded adjustment sleeves?
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