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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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Talking Rebuilding!

OK So I have finally decided that I am going to do a rebuild. I am not going to be doing it till after December, busy retail season when I have some more time on my hands. I don't have a garage where I am going to be doing this but here's the plan.
Day 1: Take out the engine with the tranny in my driveway, separate it right there, and then along with some help carry both pieces separately up some stairs to my room where the rebuild will be done (is this humanly possible...weight wise)?
This is as far as my plan has come. I'm looking right now into getting an engine hoist and the rotary engine stand build head from cp racing. Anything else I need to get through day 1? When I will get to the rebuild I will be posting many pics when I get my new D70. Let me know what you guys think
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 02:12 PM
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the engines are easy to carry when stripped but doing the rebuild in your room? maybe you underestimate how messy it is rebuilding an engine...
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 02:13 PM
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would be a lot easier if you broke the thing apart first and then carried the pieces up stairs however you can do it with someones help it's just pretty damn heavy at least for me and I'm 6' and 220. Durring my rebuild I had the poor mans engine stand ( a bucket, lol) and I was able to pick it up by myself and flip it on a couple of occations when I had to work on the front of the engine or flip it back to work on the rear of the engine. Pain in the *** though!
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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Well I got a big room so I'm going to seclude a part of my room just for this job with a big table and of course...clean and organized. I am also getting the Bruce Turrentine video ordered in as soon as possible so that I can study it. Everybody that I talked to is telling me not to do this but I thought about how great of an achievement it would be to rebuild an engine. Is it really as hard as everybody says. I've heard it's easier than a piston engine but I have very limited car experience so what do you guys think? Can it be done
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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When the engine is to be reassembled, it should be clean enough so that you could do it on the dinning room table if you want. When I did the engine that's in my archive thread, I didn't even bother washing my hands before eating dinner afterwards.

While assembly is clean, disassembly and cleaning is an absolutely filthey process. It's not really feasable to do it in your room unless you can make a BIG mess.

As far as the difficulty level, it entirely depends on your mechanical skill. The most fiddly parts are the measuring of everything, and the preparation of the side seals. After that it's pretty much "assembly is reverse of removal".
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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OK Thanks guys, so basically when you take everything apart all the seals, o-rings and gaskets need to be replace am I correct. Also in the FSM manual it mentions some parts for the clutch and flywheel removal. Are those a necessity? Would it be a good idea say if I was planning on doing another rebuild if necessary in the future?
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
When I did the engine that's in my archive thread, I didn't even bother washing my hands before eating dinner afterwards.
But werent you also covered in POR 15?
BTW cant wait to see more pics of your project tina!

Good luck to you on the rebuild, hope it works out for you, lookin forward to some pics.
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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heh, do you have the money to buy all the measuring tools? they are a tad pricey depending on how you figure out to measure them. you will need a puller (and a big hammer) to get the flywheel off. and it is quite a bit messy... no matter how well you think you drain the motor, you will make a puddle of oil.. or coolant.. of some size. and be forewarned, you MAY run into unusable parts (plates/housings)..
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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a trusty tarp will do
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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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It will be a real PITA to anyone without proper facilities and tools. Disassembly is very nasty and more so the cleaning is time consuming and messy filthy. My only concern on the project is lack of tools. The proper tools is what makes a mechanics life ok or a living hell. The flywheel will be a choir and the front pulley bolt. Other then that the long block disassemble can be confusing and allot of bolts and parts come apart. This is the meaning of allot of space is taken up. If you are short on space buy a crap load of plastic Tupperware buckets and take your time placing each item into here and labeling it. If you do this it should be feasible other words you will be chasing bolts and parts for a long time. Do not rush into it watch the videos many times and I suggest watching another companies videos as they all touch on parts others neglected. As well check out some of the engine build threads on here.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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First things first, I'm gonna watch the videos and just take it from there. Another option I was looking at was buying a used engine that I found. Has 80,000 on it from Japan for 1000$. Apparently they have to change their engines after 80000 on them for their emissions regulations. The thing is...I just wonder how hard it was driven over on the other side there. For that price it might seem like a better deal, but then again it might need a rebuild soon after as well.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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What is the deal with all these rumors of removing engins in japan just b/c of milage sheeez. anyways 98% of JDM motors should be rebuild upon arival.
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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hmm that's just what i've heard from everybody. I guess they just don't know any different. So looking into a Japanese motor might not be such a great idea. I imagine it would be very hard to find a semidecent 13B anywhere for a semidecent price Even in a junkyard, the engine is propably the reason it's there in the first place...
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