bobafc3s

Well my good friends at SIX Autoworks gave me a pair of these Toe Eliminators from RacingBeat. But after searching some threads on RX7Club I still don't understand the use of these Toe Eliminators. Can anyone elaborate to me? Thanks

slpin

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in Japanese:
FC3S に回転で、ディスエイブル受動の後部ステアリング後部車輪の受動に後部にステアリングつま先のディスエイブ ルのディスエイブルのつま先で触ることがある。

for english, please reply with the number 1.
si habla espanol, gracis presso numbero 2.

bobafc3s

So in theory would this be better or worse while im pushing my car through the corners?

slpin

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depends what kind of driver you are.
some driver like it, some dont.
if you have to ask this question, your driving level is not at the point where it would matter.

while you are pushing the car near the limit, near the point at which the rear tires would slide, the rear toes out a little so you make that little turn without sliding as much, as theres traction. without it, it slides a little and you control it... a bit sooner.... it could save you if you just drive stupid on the street and have no skills.... or if you are a good driver, it would anony you.

bobafc3s

well i've always felt like when im cornering hard in the canyons my rear wheels feel like they are sometimes unstable and then regain grip. maybe it was the rear steer that i was never aware of having. i guess i'll get them put on this saturday at work.

p.s. anybody in Southern California looking for good body work and paint job come to PJ Bonifacio Autodesign in the City Of Industry.
Phone: (626)336-4595

LittleCon

what relation do you have to them? I need a good place for some body work / repaint

bobafc3s

I work there at PJ Bonifacio Autodesign.

fastrotaries

PJ's have done several cars that have graced the pages of Sport Compact magazine and Super Street. From the mag....they do quality work. I think they even painted one of the early competitors of the "Ultimate Street Car Challenge" I wish I could send my car from Mississippi to them.

fastrotaries

Oh and the rear steer is difficult to use at the limit because it gives no warning of when the *** will step out. Somewhat like driving a Kart. If you can master the DTSS and then get rid of it, it'll be sooo much easier to drive your car. Partly because you've been doing it the hard way. For regular driving it's fine, but at the limit, it can be tricky. Also take note that those bushings are real old, and very fatigued. System New, it actually isn't that bad. I've removed mine after Auto-X'ing with the for 4 seasons. It was WAAAYYY easier to control the car at limit, especially in a slide (mistake) situation. hope this helps. You'll need a vice or a press to install those too.

bluesi

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Anywhere that sells stock replacement DTSS? Does Mazda carry them?

oakback

From what I've read, you'd have to buy the whole wheel carrier thingy.

I liked the eliminators because my stock bushings were worn out, and every time one of my rear wheels hit a bump the rear of the car would step to the side, even when going straight. It was very dangerous and unpredictable.

LittleCon

i'll give them a call, i need alot of work done

slpin

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the dtss comes on depending on Gs....

staticguitar313

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Are their any downsides to switching to eliminators if your bushing still work ok?
I've heard people claim it feels different and not in a good way. . .

micah

When you put the eliminators on.. .it makes your car feel like a traditional sports car. Like driving a vette, miata, MR2... or something like that.. very predictable. The DTSS stuff, especially when worn out is hard to predict, and has gotten me into more "almosts" than it has saved me.

drago86

Thats not actually what it does. It toes the outer wheel in during hard cornering, the suspension geometry (semi trailing arms) allready toes the outside wheel out when you turn in, the DTSS makes sure it doesnt stay toed out during hard cornering loads, which would cause the rear end to want to keep rotating.

Its nerly identical in function to the system used on the 928 porsche.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weissach_axle




It will become easier to step the *** end out with the eliminator bushings, but it is a good tradeoff for worn bushings that are acting unpredictably.