question about the ground mods
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question about the ground mods
i just recently purchased an amazing 87 gxl and its got some mods done to it. for one he has most of the ground mods( found on this site) done except secondary fuel rail and ecu. my question is--- is this gonna effect anything on my car having one fuel rail grounded better than the other? oh yea...not trying to be a dick but please dont give any advise unless your 100% sure of what your telling me. ive been getting some dip ***** on here. thank you
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No, it won't matter. Grounding the fuel rail is just as pointless as all the other "ground mods" normally mentioned on this site.
If you want to do grounding properly, see http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/grounding.htm
If you want to do grounding properly, see http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/grounding.htm
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I have a Buddy Club Racing Spec condenser (its sort of a grounding mod, cleans up electrical noise) and it made a bit of a difference.
But i dont think grounding the fuel rail would accomplish anything. Aaron has a good write up that he posted, id follow that.
But i dont think grounding the fuel rail would accomplish anything. Aaron has a good write up that he posted, id follow that.
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Originally Posted by zrokool85
...he has most of the ground mods( found on this site) done except secondary fuel rail and ecu.
I'm sure most of the "grounds" the previous owner added can be removed, which will no doubt tidy up your engine bay a bunch. Read and follow Aaron's write-up on fixing up the stock ground points.
Originally Posted by reatrdedspleen
I have a Buddy Club Racing Spec condenser...
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And if the there are all of these grounds added, what makes you think that adding a ground to the fuel rail is needed? Does your car still hesitate? Grounding is not an end all solution. If it ain't broke, why are you trying to fix it?
Spleen: a condenser is a capacitor, it could help stabilize voltage spikes and draws - but its need and effects are questionable. On the other hand, a cdi system seems to stabilize ignition breakup at high rpm, half of that could be due to the caps stabilizing the voltage and building a stronger charge when power drops. I suppose that fuel injectors could suffer the same issues, but their lower voltage could also negate it.
(I'm not going to ask about the ecu because that ground deserves to be stronger)
Spleen: a condenser is a capacitor, it could help stabilize voltage spikes and draws - but its need and effects are questionable. On the other hand, a cdi system seems to stabilize ignition breakup at high rpm, half of that could be due to the caps stabilizing the voltage and building a stronger charge when power drops. I suppose that fuel injectors could suffer the same issues, but their lower voltage could also negate it.
(I'm not going to ask about the ecu because that ground deserves to be stronger)
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Originally Posted by NZConvertible
Snake oil of the nastiest kind.
People always say that our cars have grounding problems. I followed the write up on where i should connect the grounding points. And the racing spec condenser worked.
Buddy club charges 250 or somethen like that for it.. overpriced yes.. did it work? sure, and it was free cant argue that.
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
No, it won't matter. Grounding the fuel rail is just as pointless as all the other "ground mods" normally mentioned on this site.
If you want to do grounding properly, see http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/grounding.htm
If you want to do grounding properly, see http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/grounding.htm
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Originally Posted by reatrdedspleen
People always say that our cars have grounding problems. I followed the write up on where i should connect the grounding points. And the racing spec condenser worked.
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Our cars don't have grounding problems. Well, not any worse that most other cars on the road. The grounding system in my RX-7 was fine for 20 years and has only recently been rewired as part of a much larger project. On the other hand, I have had to replace the ground straps in my 2000 Insight twice with OEM units until I got smart and made my own.
The condenser likely worked because your alternator, battery or battery connections are having issues. The condenser is just a large value capacitor that acts as a filter.
The condenser likely worked because your alternator, battery or battery connections are having issues. The condenser is just a large value capacitor that acts as a filter.
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As soon as i get my 1991 GTX from the Vancouver docks i plan on giving it a complete tune up. Redoing the factory grounds was already on my list, but cheers to aaroncake for the write up.
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