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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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idk if this is a dumb question or not but...

everytime i turn my car it starts but then shuts back down is it just that it dont got gas? my gas light dont work and my gauge is just lil wrong but the car still starts for like 5 secs but turn off right away.
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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if there was no gas at this point it wouldnt even start at all..probably a vacuum leak.
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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could be first time it did that i tried to give it gas but it just backfires while its dieing off but the confuseing thing is that it finally turns out without unflooding but yea turning off gots me fused up

i turned it on again today for the first time today and it died 30 secs later
then i tried to turn it on again then it just dies 4 secs later
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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yea sounds like something is loose
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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you done gotta check that there air flow meter................. yeehaw.

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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dawicka2
you done gotta check that there air flow meter................. yeehaw.

john ny
uh ... english? lol
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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check the connections and/or workingness of your air flow meter. Mine **** the bed a while back and my car had similar symptoms.

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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 08:12 PM
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ok heres a dumb question but...

wats the air flow meter pics of where it can be?

go ahead laugh all u want im still learnig im only 14
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 09:06 PM
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Lack of fuel probably because the afm has it's plug (electrical) off. If that plug is on the afm, then jumper the yellow in color, two socket, fuel pump check connector near the right front strut tower, then try starting again. IF the engine stays running, then .........we can go from there. Free download of the FSM is available online for.........free. FUEL AND EMISSIONS chapter will do.
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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heres both style afms
Attached Thumbnails question...-tii-afm.jpg   question...-na-afm.jpg  
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 09:59 AM
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yea i check my afm and it looks fine i check the wires and it seems fine soo yea i do not know wat else to do ideas here?
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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Your original question is very unclear. After the car initially stalls, if you restart and give it a bit of pedal does it continue running?

If you can't get it to stay running, then the AFM is likely the cause.

If you can keep it running with a little but of the accelerator pedal, then you should check:

1. Vacuum leaks
2. AWS solenoid
3. BAC
4. Cold start cam
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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It could also be a dirty fuel sock on the fuel pump.
Had it been sitting a long time?
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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uh i dont think its the fuel pump the car been running and to aaron once i start up the car it just shuts back down it starts regulary like a cold start for like 30 secs then it shuts down i try to give it some gas from the pedal once it started but it dont help it still shuts down i check my afm connections and such it seems fine
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 12:26 AM
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99% sure your afm is is bad or the wiring is bad.
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 09:56 AM
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Based on your statements, which are very difficult to understand because they barely qualify as English, I would agree with the above. Sounds like an AFM issue.
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 10:38 AM
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so your saying i should try to buy a new afm? and if that don't work its my wires?
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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If you turn your ignition switch to the on position and push in on the afm flapper door you should hear the fuel pump start running, if you don't then it is bad.

Then I would check the wiring before I went out and got a new AFM.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 02:37 PM
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so your saying i should try to buy a new afm? and if that don't work its my wires?
Or simply troubleshoot the AFM as per instructions in the FSM. Then if the procedure shows yours as defective, replace it.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 07:12 PM
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i checked my afm and the afm is working any other ideas here?
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 06:41 AM
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Maybe a huge air leak between the throttle body and the afm, but I imagine that would be pretty obvious.
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 06:58 AM
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As Aaron stated several posts ago, your description of the problem is very vague. To help us help you, you need to be clear on a few things.
First, what year and what model (turbo/NA)
What happens if you play with the pedal when starting/running?
Did you ever put gas in it to eliminate that problem? If your gas gage does not work, track the status of the gas tank by using the trip odometer (fill up the tank everytime you get gas).
How did you check your AFM?
Did you do anything to the car just prior to this occurring?
Have you checked all vacuum hoses?

You've had a couple of the forums best post in your thread. Most likely they know what the problem is, but they cannot help if you are not descriptive enough.
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TongassT
As Aaron stated several posts ago, your description of the problem is very vague. To help us help you, you need to be clear on a few things.
First, what year and what model (turbo/NA)
What happens if you play with the pedal when starting/running?
Did you ever put gas in it to eliminate that problem? If your gas gage does not work, track the status of the gas tank by using the trip odometer (fill up the tank everytime you get gas).
How did you check your AFM?
Did you do anything to the car just prior to this occurring?
Have you checked all vacuum hoses?

You've had a couple of the forums best post in your thread. Most likely they know what the problem is, but they cannot help if you are not descriptive enough.
srry ill try my best...
ok i got a 1988 gxl NA 13b
if it does starts up i try to give it gas it does nothing but the car still shuts down
i know i got gas
i check my afm by removing the filter and turnin my ignition switch to on and i opened up the flap i can hear the fuel i think/ also i check the wires and they all seem fine..
i have not done anything to the car ever since....
i check the hoses and it all seem fine

i hope i made it lil clearer
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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my guess is a vacuum leak?

maybe your just not thoroughly checking your vacuum lines.
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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im sure i havent but can anyone gimmi a diaphram of the vacuum lines?
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