PWM controlled fan-On the A/C Condenser!
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PWM controlled fan-On the A/C Condenser!
Yesterday I was helping a friend with his A/C on a 2001 BMW 540i. The setup was very nice. It had a dedicated, fully shrouded fan front-mounted on the condenser. As I charged the car and pressure rose, the PWM boosted the fan up. The fan basically idled in silence under 200psi, ramped up gradually to 250psi. Over 250 the speed rose and fell very aggressively. It was awesome to hear the fan spool up, watch the pressures fall, then watch the cycle repeat. Once the cabin temp was stable, the fan speed would stabilize as well. Turn the interior fan speed up (increased load) and the condenser fan would ramp. Turn the interior fan down (reduced load) and the condenser fan would ramp down.
Now I don't know if there is a pressure transducer and the PWM is responding to that signal or if there is merely a temperature sensor and the PWM was responding to that signal. It really doesn't matter; either one would work, since pressure and temperature are directly proportional.
Very, very cool in every sense of the word!
Now I don't know if there is a pressure transducer and the PWM is responding to that signal or if there is merely a temperature sensor and the PWM was responding to that signal. It really doesn't matter; either one would work, since pressure and temperature are directly proportional.
Very, very cool in every sense of the word!
i recently got my A/c working in my FC.. i never really took the time before now to see how it works. basically the bigger the pressure drop between the low and high sides, the better the cooling, and the more air through the condensor increases the pressure difference.
but yeah that would be a cool aftermarket device.. a closed loop a/c fan controller using an a/c pressure sensor for feedback, it could easily attach to the low side charge connector. hmmm
but yeah that would be a cool aftermarket device.. a closed loop a/c fan controller using an a/c pressure sensor for feedback, it could easily attach to the low side charge connector. hmmm
The auxilary fan on the BMW is controlled directly by the DME(engine control unit). Which takes reading from the coolant temp sensor, and the A/C controller.
I'm not too familiar with Haltech ECUs, but I bet it could control both an engine radiator fan and a condenser fan.
I'm not too familiar with Haltech ECUs, but I bet it could control both an engine radiator fan and a condenser fan.
LOL, welcome to one of the many reasons why the better RX-7s have a standalone EMS as opposed to the stock POS EMS jury-rigged with a POS piggyback fuel controller. You can also buy a fancy fan controller box such as the Spal FAN-PWM:
http://www.spal-usa.com/fans/automat...es/fanpwm.html
http://www.spal-usa.com/fans/automat...es/fanpwm.html
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I was just about to have hope of using my A/C in my car again. I wanted to install a nice fan for the condenser in hopes of cool air....but now you've crushed my dreams once more...
My FC is an oven in California right now....and I'm the piece of meat going medium rare as I drive.
My FC is an oven in California right now....and I'm the piece of meat going medium rare as I drive.
LOL, welcome to one of the many reasons why the better RX-7s have a standalone EMS as opposed to the stock POS EMS jury-rigged with a POS piggyback fuel controller. You can also buy a fancy fan controller box such as the Spal FAN-PWM:
http://www.spal-usa.com/fans/automat...es/fanpwm.html
http://www.spal-usa.com/fans/automat...es/fanpwm.html
I was just about to have hope of using my A/C in my car again. I wanted to install a nice fan for the condenser in hopes of cool air....but now you've crushed my dreams once more...
My FC is an oven in California right now....and I'm the piece of meat going medium rare as I drive.
My FC is an oven in California right now....and I'm the piece of meat going medium rare as I drive.
My clutch fan died on me awhile ago and I went with a 16" e-fan from flex-a-lite. It moves a whole lot of air...2500 cfm. But when I turn on my A/C the stock S5 TII Alternator can't keep up and the fan loses some power...enough to have the water boil. I haven't used my A/C ever since that overheating incident. I'm waiting for my alternator from Japan2LA then I wanted to give the AC another try with an e-fan. That Spal fan controller is pretty cool but expensive...I might just get a thermostat controlled e-fan like the radiator fan I'm currently using.
I so agree with you on the ducts! My original undertray was MIA before I bought the car, I've been wanting to go get some sheet metal and fab up ducts that lead to the oil cooler and radiator seperately. I've seen a few members here do ducts like that to help their V-Mount.
I so agree with you on the ducts! My original undertray was MIA before I bought the car, I've been wanting to go get some sheet metal and fab up ducts that lead to the oil cooler and radiator seperately. I've seen a few members here do ducts like that to help their V-Mount.







