BDoty311

Which way is easier? The reason I am asking is because Im pulling mine tomorrow and have heard mixed reviews on which way is easier.

kdxer200

I pulled one last summer w/ the trans and it was a sinch. Didnt have to worry about getting the e-shaft and input shaft apart, or getting any bellhousing bolts. I know there are ppl here that will disagree, but I've pulled multiple engines and I would say 4 out of 5 times it's easier w/ the trans, unless it's fwd.

88IntegraLS

Other than messing with the vacuum network, pulling the motor alone is a piece of cake. I just got done pulling mine and it took about 15 minutes once I had the manifolds and vacuum stuff off it.

kevino

when I pulled my engine I left the tranny in and it was pretty easy. The only hard part was re-aligning the bellhousing when putting it back in; not very hard with some help though.

SonicRaT

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It's pretty damn easy either way, just depends on what you're going to be doing to decide which you want to do

turbojeff

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Sounds like the hard way. Pulling the motor with manifolds off that is. Why would you take the vaccum lines and manifolds off while the engine is in the car?

Pull the motor as a complete assembly. I like pulling the engine and trans together. Don't have to mess with bellhousing bolts, starter, slave cyl, etc. It all stays on, it is a snap to work on the engine/trans when it is out of the car.

Jeff

Makenzie71

I always leave the tranny in...neither is easier...or allows you to turn fewer bolts.

scathcart

Leave the trans in, unless you have an overhead hoist. I've had issues using some engine hoists and removing them together.

I've removed a decent number of engines. Leave the trans in.

Bridgeported

VERY easy to leave the tranny in and remove only the engine. Took me less than 5 minutes to completely remove the engine from the transmission (bolts, clutch, etc), and that is with no shop or special tools.

Rotary Racer

I have gotten pulling a motor to a science. From the car in running condition to motor out on a stand I can do it in 4 hours (Just need help to take off the hood awkward weight). So I am all for pulling the motor with out the transmission. But the only pain about this is installing it back in with the transmission on the car now that takes a little more time. But the mater of the fact is do it the way you feel comfortable. Everyone on this board had different level of mechanical ability so just work at your own pace and have fun .

88IntegraLS

Because I only want the short block on my bench when all is said and done. And my garage rafters might not hold all that weight!

usfdr

Definately pull them both at the same time. There aare only four bolts holding the tranny up and yoy have to take the shifter and clutch slave off. Instead of Starter, tanny boltsthen having to support the tranny. Also, getting it back in with the tranny still in the car is a headache. When its all together its easy. Also, pull the engine out complete with all manifolds and even the wiring harness. I think there are about five or six pugs to pull inside the car and just pull it though the firewall. Saves a lot of time bent over the fender killing your back.

Usfdr

Bambam7

I did mine the long way.... I took everything off the engine before removing it.... and left the tranny in.

Personally, I would leave the tranny in- you are going to have to seperate the two once the engine is out anyways!! Might as well just do it while the tranny is in and supported- it's super easy.

It is a bit of a PITA to re-align the tranny and engine when re-installing, but it's just a matter of trial and error, pushing them together untill they mate up... took me at least 15-20 min of trying to get them together before they actually slid in... no biggie.

Tranny in-
Pros:
- lot less wiegth to pull out
- don't deal with rusty crossmember bolts, and driveshaft yoke bolts....
-gotta seperate the tranny eventually anyways

Cons:
have to realign the tranny and engine by adjusting the lift.... can be a little pain.

AreExSeven

When I did it, I left the tranny in. But then I pulled the tranny out later and bolted it back to the engine before dropping it in. It is much easier to align the input shaft and those bolts when it is on the ground rather than hanging there in a limited space.

Nick86

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I've pulled a few engines - with and without tranis. Splitting the two or leaving them together is up to you - but I will give you a tip that will make the job WAY easier.

**** using a block and tackle off a rafter. It's a pain and over-complex. Do yourself a favor - go and rent an engine hoist. They cost less than $20 a day, they are safer, and will save you time and headache. Just take off the hood, and the hoist will lift the engine out in no time. They are also a HUGE help when putting the engine back in.

I used to use the pully-off-rafter setup, but after using a hoist, I'll never go back.

xfeastonarsex

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I would say with. When I have pulled engines w/o tranny it is a bieyatch to get my hands up in there to tighten the transmission to the engine. Not to mention it is easier to allign everything on the ground then from some chains, in my experience.