ripped apart the engine today woohoo



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you ****** psycho! ...i hope you can install that in reverse order

 

 

 

install what

 

Holy ****!

 

make some plexiglass rotor housings so you can see it run now!

 

Glad to see your nice and organized!

 

So what's wrong with all that? Just port it and slap it all back together

 

only need new rotor or two, few housings.........

 

hahah, that whole motor is shot. jeez man!!!

 

Damn!..did you even try training your oil before you took the motor apart??..i thought i was messy when i took mine apart. =)

 

I cant belaive this is how your doing this.

Your doomed for tragedy here.

First, your engine is shot.

I wouls be willing to bet that prior to reading this, you are not thiking of spending the time required to clean this thing right.

(Based on the methods and care your taking so far.)

SO....

You will need new rotors and housings.

You need to move this project inside.

You need a parts washer.

You need a sharp set of picks and spare apex and side seals.

Remember, the engine parts you scrape MUST allow the pick and/or spare seals that you scrape with to move freely.

Like glass.

If they catch on anything, there is still carbon in the slots and grooves.

If you can catch your fingernail on the groovs in the side housings, then they are shot.


I applaud your bravery, but slow down.
Clean stuff a bit, and try to organize better.

Otherwise, I await the post from you that states that you lost a part, or "now that I have my engine together.. it runs wierd."

"Procedure is the ignorant mans genius."
-Me

 

thanks for the vote of confidence this is an engine not brain surgery. i have rebuilt a piston engine before with no problems. i also have EVERY single part,nut,bolt ,screw,washer, that came from this engine. i saw my FD engine being built i know it takes time to do correctly. i'm not about to go and try have this thing running tomorrow with used seals yadda. i never PERSONALLY took a 13B apart. maybe you didn't notice this is just the initial tear down ? i do have a giant jug of castrol superclean in my garage waiting for whichever parts i'm not replacing to be cleaned :p i may not have said it yet but i'm probably gonna spend $2000 in parts and have all new bearings, seals, housings, rotors, like my FD engine has i think YOU are jumping the gun quite a bit. i don't appreciate the pessimism. personally i have heard of some shoddy rebuilds from X shops. even though i haven't done it yet i have common sense! just curious as to what i have done wrong or not to your standards in tearing down a BLOWN engine

 

I was a clueless 17 yr. old kid when I did mine.... turned out just fine.

You can do it man.... but you WILL need all new housings and rotors. If you think $2000 is the budget, have fun dreaming. Set to more like $4k and you'll have a good and reliable fresh engine .

BTW - WOW that is HELLA carbon on those rotors... no wonder it went out in a BANG!

 

three words, mazdaspeed motorsports development
when you pay dealer cost its not that bad

 

i was gonna do atf treatment, but oh well. that engine only had 100psi front compression and 95psi rear

 

I know that you are doing a "budget build", just hope you do it right, skimp whare you can but spend whare you need to. HAVE FUN!!!!!!!

 

i'm still ultimately deciding how far i want to go but if i'm gonna go thru the steps its getting everything new

 

after more pondering might put in a jspec for now and save up and slowly work on the engine..... turborotor got a MINT jspec from a local place over here i figure i should be able to do the same hopefully

 

Im not trying to tell you it cant be done, but I have never attempted to build an engine in such conditions.

I agree with you and everyone else that it can be done, but it wouldn't hurt to take the organization and such up a notch.

These engines are so simple that the slightest imperfe tion or misplaced / misinstalled seal can cause it to completely fail.

There are actually parts of the rebuild that require near clinical clenliness because there are places where oils and sealant have to sit side by side and not touch until the engine is clamped together.

have you seen the atkins rotary engine rebuild video?

Its a GREAT resource.

Im just REALLY meticulous about these sorts of things.

And thats only been a help, not a hinderance.

"Im a real measure twice, cut once kinda person"

Sniper_X

 

i understand your concern if i was building the engine like that but teardown is completely different

 

There's no point in tearing an engine down in cleanroom conditions, especially that one. That bitch is fried.

Vosko, I'll have to post pics of mine when it comes apart to see who's was worse