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Old May 11, 2005 | 05:54 PM
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pics of my s5 motor install, and a million questions to go with it.

well, here is the motor in.....

sorry for my shitty digi cam, here are the questions

1. i have a bunch of wires comming off my old wireing harness, and i want to make sure everything is right before i bolt on my intake manifold. this is green clip comming off the wireing harness where it clips in to the injectors at the top of the lower intake man.




this is a set of clips where the wireing harness runs by the turbo.



this is a clip that is right next to the tps



this is the clips that go into my coolant level sensor at the bottom of my rad, i dont know which of the two wires plug into it, unless both do and it just has part broken off.





and thats it for now, and about all thats standing in my way of finnishing it up also, if someone knew how i would figgure out which tubes go to which on my abs pumpthat would help too
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Old May 11, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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1) Your injectors are plugged in wrong.
2) That square plug is for the water thermo sensor.
3) S4 car? Was it a high impedance injector car???

What are you doing about the OMP?
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Old May 11, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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1) Your injectors are plugged in wrong.

ok, i wasnt sure if it was that way or the other way around


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2) That square plug is for the water thermo sensor.
on the back side of the water pump? because there is another square plug there that also has a single wire connector next to it for what i assumed was the coolent level sensor on the back side of the water pump too.

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3) S4 car? Was it a high impedance injector car???
wasnt until the other day

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What are you doing about the OMP?
blocking it off and running premix
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Old May 11, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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heres a pic of the wires i had hooked up to the coolent temp sensor on the back of the water pump. they split off there the wireing harness when it passes the water pump and turbo. where there where all thoes other connectors that i coundt find where they went.

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Old May 11, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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Old May 11, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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The green square plug is the waterthermosensor on the back of the waterpump as said above.

That white rectangular clip by the turbo looks like it's for the ACV.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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The injector plugs with white/brownish tape on them are the FRONT injectors...the short lead goes to the primary/lower, the longer lead goes to the secondary/top. Then your green plug will reach the thermosensor. And your rear injector leads are on another "branch" and plug up the same way.


the white 2 prong plug beside the TPS is for the intake air temp sensor, which would be on the throttlebody inlet elbow of the turbo motors.


the black and the white plugs by the turbo went to the acv, leave them alone.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 11:11 PM
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The injector plugs with white/brownish tape on them are the FRONT injectors...the short lead goes to the primary/lower, the longer lead goes to the secondary/top. Then your green plug will reach the thermosensor. And your rear injector leads are on another "branch" and plug up the same way.


the white 2 prong plug beside the TPS is for the intake air temp sensor, which would be on the throttlebody inlet elbow of the turbo motors.


the black and the white plugs by the turbo went to the acv, leave them alone.
ok, cool, i thought that the one next to the tps would go to the intake temp sensor, but wasnt sure, iv had some fun with that little thing in the past..

the next question is; the green connector in my first post, next to the injector clips is a different one from the one in my third post, which one would go on the back of the water pump and where would the other one go/


edit: the green connector is right next to where my acv used to plug up, think i ran the wireing harness the wrong way, but if that one isnt supposed to go to the back of the water pump, then what plugs into the water level sensor there too.

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Old May 11, 2005 | 11:15 PM
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Get that Fram filter off
ya, i was pissed when advanced told me thats all they had in stock.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 02:40 AM
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**** Advanced, they never have anything in stock. Go to Autozone instead..
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Old May 12, 2005 | 03:57 AM
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Order a bunch of OEM filters from Atkins.

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Old May 12, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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does anyone not know though about the last question i posted?
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Old May 12, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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what about the plug for the bac valve?, its similiar to the water thermo plug, i believe it is green too. it should be on the same hunk of leads as the o2 and acv, then, if routed correctly, will go over the motor(then the water temp and such should reach.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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I believe that's your BAC and O2 sensor plugs in that last pic.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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Uh oh....whats wrong with the phram filters.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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nothing is wrong with them. Most filters in the world are made by two compaines.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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ok ok ok, so then that must have been where the bac used to go, next question, if the water temp sensor is on the the same set of wires that go to the injectors, then what clip goes to the water level sensor (located at the back of the water pump on a s5 motor or at the top of the water pump on s4's)
i do have two small white clips that come off the wireing that goes to the other injectors (not on the same ones the green clip is on)

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Old May 12, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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the water level sensor is on the radiator. The thing on the top of the waterpump is the aux fan sensor.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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are you shitting me? i just spent almost an hour looking through the fsm for the wire that went to that sensor........


just to make sure it is a g/b wire right?
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Old May 12, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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I don't remember off hand, I never use it since I never much had a need for that aux fan (it's only on TII/GXL and A/C cars if I remember?). Your water temp gauge one is down by the oil pedistal, your water thermo sensor (the one the ECU uses), is the injector looking plug on the back of the waterpump, and then there's usually that one for the aux fan (single wire if I remember)
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Old May 12, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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eh, i just left it off anyways, put on the upper intake manifold, tb and intercooler, wired up the tps and intake temp sensor. after figguring out that my old fuel pump was dead, pulling my brother's off and using that, cleaning the lines, checking the fuel filter, checking the plugs over and over again. got it to run (not really, but it studered) on starting fluid. i didnt think about dropping the old gas before putting new in, so i have to drain the tank tomarrrow and put new gas in. only thing to be really worried about is that there was a little water on the plugs one of the time we pulled them out, which is ether, a blown coolant seal, or, hopefully, just water in my gas, ether way we'll know more when i buy heater hoses and drop the gas. i figgure if it is a blown coolant seal, i can just part out and make back some of the 3g's thats gone into that car so far. (not to mention the price we origionally payed for it) and buy a honda or just part out the motor and my old s4 motor and buy a lt1, ether way i'll be up **** creek if it is a coolent seel.

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Old May 13, 2005 | 12:33 AM
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You're really pushing the rope down the street on this one. Your wiring harness is old and stiff. All the wires should be "TRYING" to go back to where they belong. Your trouble seem to stem from you pulling the harness out fo shape and attaching things where they don't go.

I am not criticizing you, rather I am trying to get you relax and let the wires go where they want to go. If they are not fitting where you think they should go then maybe the component has not been installed just yet. For instance the upper injectors cannot be hocked up just yet cause the fuel rail is still sitting on a shelf.

Just trying to help
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Old May 13, 2005 | 07:06 AM
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well, the main problem was that when i ran the wireing harness, i ran it infront of my turbo, not from behind causing the connector from the old bac valve to sit highter, inface right behing the water pump, and next to the only other green plug in the engine bay. as for the injectors, the plugs would easly fit ether way. but now its getting fuel and spark, so hopefully i can get it running tonight. i'll post more pics when its all done and hopefully a vid if anyones interested
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Old May 13, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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The harness shoudl wrap around the motor... It should go from the passenger frame and go between the intake mani and the alternator, in other words behind the alter. Then when you pull it through, so that its on the other side, just take it towards the tranny and then bend it again so that the connectors are next to the intake mani and also everything else... The tps and alternator plug should be on the begining of the harness. Then the secondary injectors and the thermosensor clip should be either the last or one of the last plugs on the harness.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 09:50 AM
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as said before, everything is hooked up that needs to be and the wireing harness is ran.
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