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I think he means he took off the air pump.
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haha, yeah, I meant the air pump.
hmm... repower the fuel pump? the car started and ran everytime, just couldnt idle... could that be because of the fuel pump?
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What I mean is reconnecting either the fuel pump relay or the fuel pump its self after you disconnected the power from one of the 2. If it started everytime then you must have already done this.
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yes indeed.
now I'm waiting on the upper intake manifold gasket from Mazda.
Should be in by wednesday, God willing.
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Hey Anas, I'm glad that people here are helping you. I just found this thread and to be honest, I wasn't going to reply since I had nothing constructive to say after everyones replies but after reading some of these posts by the OP, I have to clarify a few things. I'm posting ALL the details left out, so if you'd like, please follow along. Coles notes are at the bottom.

First off, I am the owner of the "shop" (if you can even call the one garage bay warehouse that) that the 'second' swap was done at, and most likely one of the "people who only cared about picking up parts".

(The first one was done at his old house, in the driveway. A handful of us from BCRotary decided to swing by his place in Richmond every night for a week to get it running, and it ended up getting seized because the OP decided to take a hose to the motor when it was on the ground and the fuel rail was off. This nudged the fuel rail spacer right into the motor and was never taken out before the motor was put in. Why? Because pulling it completely apart was way too much for us to do in his driveway.)
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thanks for all the comments and advise...just patiently waiting for my friend to show up with his wiring tools to hook up the SAFC properly, I cranked the engine with the egi fuse out for 30 seconds... I'm gonna wait till I properly connect the SAFC b4 I try starting it again... I've been depressed since the engine didnt run properly... but I've learnt many new lessons with this...
I hope this Rx7 isnt as cursed as my last 2 :p
I had 2 S4s...and my swaps resulted in seized engines.. cause the shell I used was cursed!!! and the people that helped me only cared about picking up the parts left from the other car...
I can't believe you have the nerve to say something like that. Me, Miguel, Chris, Victor, and SO many other members from BCRotary came and SLAVED at your driveway. I opened up my garage space (warehouse, no hoist / power tools), let you park your car in there for the longest time, helped you get your shell towed there, THEN continued to work on it with Miguel and Chris. You called me nearly every day, often way more, asking me when work was going to be done on it as if I was getting paid for it. We spent so many nights there when you weren't even around. You posted on BCRotary basically ORDERS when left for Toronto. We told you before you left, that nothing will be done over that time, we were all busy and you weren't even around but you still posted. Here's the post from that thread:

"hey guys, Greetings from waterloo, ontario and such.
I'm so tired after non stop driving since yesterday, only had 5 hours of sleep so far... anyways, just wanted to find out how the swap is going?
any process? also, b4 the engine goes in, the mounts need to moved to the new motor. also, the plugs on the right side of the engine (the side of the alternator)
the ones with the black wire and one has a white connecting plug and the other has a black connecting plug need to be moved over to the new engine."

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The trip to Whistler was a school co-op conference, and was after the swap was done, and it was paid for by the school. ( I told you this.)
I left during the swap to Toronto for family reasons, and I told them. and I came back. it was 2 days. I don't have to explain details. ( I told you this.)
I was there for most of the wrenching, and helped as much as I could.
Then you left for Whistler for a weekend sometime later and AGAIN, expected us to work on it while you were gone. If you want me to estimate, you were there for less than 15% of the work done on it, and I'm being GENEROUS.

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That comment wasn't specifically in reference to you, but since u brought it up again...
Who was it in reference to? Please, share.
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With whatever money I had left over, I took them out for Wendy's a couple of times..
Let me recall. We went to Wendy's twice. Subway's once. I paid for Subway and Wendy's. Miguel paid for me another time (thanks again bud).
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For the parts, the car had brakes, calipers, and rotors, tail lights, the diff along with anything else I've forgotten, but because there was no goodies, anything I needed, or wanted to sell to recoup any of the money spent on the two swaps, I got attitude and I was told that they were the "payment"... I was a fool to think it was Genuine free help. - I know realize that it does exist, but its only free for so much. ( and I was an idiot to expect otherwise... the things I still have to learn... sheesh)

there was never a "condition" with the friend. he had just gotten the place, and he offered we do it there, and I offered the parts as a token of appreciation... thats what I posted on the forum... "for anyone who helps, they can have whatever is left after" or something like that... but if I need it, doesn't mean its theirs...
If I remember correctly, it was a spoken agreement that the shell would be given to us. (The shell was in terrible condition to begin with, been in an accident, rust over driver side, etc) I offered the shop genuinely, as well as the help. Don't offer it if you don't mean it. I did, what about you?

And by the way, you got attitude afterwards because not ONLY did you decide to take away the shell, but also took a month AFTER everything was said and done to tow it away. Don't worry, I'll go into more details about the towing later.

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BTW... when the guy who's place we used for the swap had his car broken into, I offered him the hood from my white one for free... and the mirrors... which he took, and used.
and when I went back looking for some of the limited tools that I had, he said he knew nothing about them, and later accused me of scouring for his tools
I appreciate the help I got, but some people help genuinely, and some help for their own reasons.
Life goes on... if I want to fix my car from now on, I'll ask for advice on the forum, and do the work myself, if I cant, I take the car to a shop. its how it should be, and if I cant afford to, I park the car, save my money, then take it to a shop. Lesson learned.
And I thanked you greatly for the hood and mirrors, EVEN THOUGH, it was part of the "parts shell" that you had originally offered to begin with. Forget about the petty stuff, I don't care if you didn't treat us out or whatever, that really doesn't matter. About the tools, you were picking up random sockets and pieces and were saying stuff like "Is this mine? I think this is mine." when I knew BLATENTLY that it was not yours. I recognize my tools, do you?

We learned several lessons too. Never offer genuine help, especially if its to guys that offer things yet never follow through. And guys that aren't willing to buy proper motor mounts, NOR new oil, tranny fluid, coolant for a swap. And guys that accuse others that they 'seized' the engine because they are using two different motor mounts and the motor is 'misaligned'.

BTW, for those that are reading this and are thinking, "wow, maybe these guys didn't know what they were doing after all", Miguel has done so many other swaps in the past, as well as Chris. In between this whole ordeal, we travelled with limited tools to a residential garage 50kms away and finished a swap for another FC owner in half a day. After this ordeal, we picked up a JSPEC T2 motor and put it in Miguel's N/A in one day with only two guys. It runs PERFECTLY and still is running PERFECTLY.

I've waited a long time to get this off my chest (I didn't want to, BELIEVE ME), and now I am very VERY curious for your reply.

Coles Notes:
- we helped with op's swap(s)
- op not present for most of work
- we did it without payment
- op blames us for seizing his motors
- in between everything, me and the two guys travel 50kms to a remote 1 bay garage, finish a swap in another FC in a day (half the day was getting the missing parts we need and moving the dead shell)
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I am doing the same thing for someone, except it's outside on a dirty patch of concrete with no tools, if someone did that to me i'd be pretty angry too.
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Originally Posted by chun
Hey Anas, I'm glad that people here are helping you. I just found this thread and to be honest, I wasn't going to reply since I had nothing constructive to say after everyones replies but after reading some of these posts by the OP, I have to clarify a few things. ......
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That really sucks that **** went down like that. At least your car is running now. Don't **** it up.

Live + learn I guess *shrug*
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I realized that I forgot to post about the "post-swap" towing incident.

So his motor was seized and towed away. His parts car was still outside of our shop space and I asked him for the registration papers so I can have it junked. There wasn't much we could salvage off of it anyways. OP says, "no, that was not the original agreement". So I shrug it off and let him know that it can't stay here. That was why I wanted it junked, or taken away, because we need the space.

After a month of back and forth, screening my calls, etc, I get to the point where I needed it out (there was a delivery coming the next day). I say the screening calls thing because when I called him before, when his car was at our place, he would pick up instantly. He would respond to voicemails right away, and call me very very often. During this month, I left at least a half a dozen voicemails, and called at least twice a week. I call him and it gets to this huge feud where he wanted me to cover the cost of towing HIS shell to HIS new place.

In the end when he realized I would not pay for his costs, he had it towed... AFTER I called (several) towing companies for him and made the arrangements.

Sorry to bring the drama RX7Club.com, hopefully this was entertaining to some of you at least.
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amy more drama and this needs to be moved to the lounge.
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Hey Albert... I'm surprised that you happened to "find" this thread, and I'm surprised more that somehow you all felt incriminated enough to defend yourself publicly and on my technical help page even though non of your names, origins, or even user names were listed.... but it doesn't surprise me that you have to "clarify"... why does everyone have to "clarify" and add their own views? this is a technical thread, stop hijackin my thread! if you think I wronged you, PM instead of spending an hour trying to make yourself look good and put me down. thats worse than my non targeted half sentence reference to any of you in the original post.

I will send you a pm with all the points you went wrong in your elaborate post.
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I'm putting on my ITC springs today along with the racing beat front and rear sway bars... putting the wheels back on, then gonna drive her for the first time! - if all goes well!
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Sounds like similar debats on Peoples Court or Judge Mathis

Before a MOD comes and closes this thread, I would keep it to PMs. Chun has a right to back him self and his work and have debates but hopefully it can keep to PMs.

Mods, clean this up a bit?

Anyways, I hear you have to tighten up the sway bar with the suspension at neutral stance, car on the ground. Personally, I don't think it matters but thats what I hear.
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thanks for the tip!, I'll keep that in mind.

I have an s4 LSD, should I do the switch now b4 I put the car on the ground or it doesnt matter enough to wait till later?

is there are a great difference between the s4 and s5 LSD's? I read that the s4's were better... I'm not sure if its worth swapping them though...
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Well, I'm sorry if you felt that I'm not allowed the right to defend myself. A lot of members of BCRotary frequent this forum, and they know of the work I did for you, so even if you kept names out, it's pretty obvious who you're talking about. So... at least people will know the full story, not the half story you posted. Feel free to PM me, or even call me. You have my number.

PS. Don't pretend to be holier than thou if you started talking the garbage first. It's not any better just because you kept it anonymous.
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Man... get over it... let it go... and if you cant... AGAIN, use PM... I've apolagized... what more do you want?
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I let it go a long time ago. You brought it up.

I don't see how you get to post stuff but when I post stuff, you get so annoyed. lol
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So is the car running yet?
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Originally Posted by chun
Hey Anas, I'm glad that people here are helping you. I just found this thread and to be honest, I wasn't going to reply since I had nothing constructive to say after everyones replies but after reading some of these posts by the OP, I have to clarify a few things. I'm posting ALL the details left out, so if you'd like, please follow along. Coles notes are at the bottom.

First off, I am the owner of the "shop" (if you can even call the one garage bay warehouse that) that the 'second' swap was done at, and most likely one of the "people who only cared about picking up parts".

(The first one was done at his old house, in the driveway. A handful of us from BCRotary decided to swing by his place in Richmond every night for a week to get it running, and it ended up getting seized because the OP decided to take a hose to the motor when it was on the ground and the fuel rail was off. This nudged the fuel rail spacer right into the motor and was never taken out before the motor was put in. Why? Because pulling it completely apart was way too much for us to do in his driveway.)

I can't believe you have the nerve to say something like that. Me, Miguel, Chris, Victor, and SO many other members from BCRotary came and SLAVED at your driveway. I opened up my garage space (warehouse, no hoist / power tools), let you park your car in there for the longest time, helped you get your shell towed there, THEN continued to work on it with Miguel and Chris. You called me nearly every day, often way more, asking me when work was going to be done on it as if I was getting paid for it. We spent so many nights there when you weren't even around. You posted on BCRotary basically ORDERS when left for Toronto. We told you before you left, that nothing will be done over that time, we were all busy and you weren't even around but you still posted. Here's the post from that thread:

"hey guys, Greetings from waterloo, ontario and such.
I'm so tired after non stop driving since yesterday, only had 5 hours of sleep so far... anyways, just wanted to find out how the swap is going?
any process? also, b4 the engine goes in, the mounts need to moved to the new motor. also, the plugs on the right side of the engine (the side of the alternator)
the ones with the black wire and one has a white connecting plug and the other has a black connecting plug need to be moved over to the new engine."


Then you left for Whistler for a weekend sometime later and AGAIN, expected us to work on it while you were gone. If you want me to estimate, you were there for less than 15% of the work done on it, and I'm being GENEROUS.


Who was it in reference to? Please, share.

Let me recall. We went to Wendy's twice. Subway's once. I paid for Subway and Wendy's. Miguel paid for me another time (thanks again bud).

If I remember correctly, it was a spoken agreement that the shell would be given to us. (The shell was in terrible condition to begin with, been in an accident, rust over driver side, etc) I offered the shop genuinely, as well as the help. Don't offer it if you don't mean it. I did, what about you?

And by the way, you got attitude afterwards because not ONLY did you decide to take away the shell, but also took a month AFTER everything was said and done to tow it away. Don't worry, I'll go into more details about the towing later.


And I thanked you greatly for the hood and mirrors, EVEN THOUGH, it was part of the "parts shell" that you had originally offered to begin with. Forget about the petty stuff, I don't care if you didn't treat us out or whatever, that really doesn't matter. About the tools, you were picking up random sockets and pieces and were saying stuff like "Is this mine? I think this is mine." when I knew BLATENTLY that it was not yours. I recognize my tools, do you?

We learned several lessons too. Never offer genuine help, especially if its to guys that offer things yet never follow through. And guys that aren't willing to buy proper motor mounts, NOR new oil, tranny fluid, coolant for a swap. And guys that accuse others that they 'seized' the engine because they are using two different motor mounts and the motor is 'misaligned'.

BTW, for those that are reading this and are thinking, "wow, maybe these guys didn't know what they were doing after all", Miguel has done so many other swaps in the past, as well as Chris. In between this whole ordeal, we travelled with limited tools to a residential garage 50kms away and finished a swap for another FC owner in half a day. After this ordeal, we picked up a JSPEC T2 motor and put it in Miguel's N/A in one day with only two guys. It runs PERFECTLY and still is running PERFECTLY.

I've waited a long time to get this off my chest (I didn't want to, BELIEVE ME), and now I am very VERY curious for your reply.

Coles Notes:
- we helped with op's swap(s)
- op not present for most of work
- we did it without payment
- op blames us for seizing his motors
- in between everything, me and the two guys travel 50kms to a remote 1 bay garage, finish a swap in another FC in a day (half the day was getting the missing parts we need and moving the dead shell)

wah wah, let me get you guys some tissues.
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Exactly.

to TehMonkay, the car is running!!!! thanks

I just gotta get some metric bolts to block off the steering rack... I took off the power steering pump and the hoses, now I gotta plug it up where the rack connects to the hoses that connect to the pump, anyone know the sizes off hand? and if its even a good idea? or should I just leave them open?

I took apart the intake manifold and replaced vacuum hoses, and the gaskets... but the car still doesn't idle, after it goes to 3k, it drops slowly to 1k, it revs a bit around 1000rpm then shuts off... anyone know what it could be? TPS perhaps?
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Get an aftermarket tach or a DMM with rpm and verify the engine's RPM. I don't believe the stock tach on any rx7 I look at.

Actually, you have a SAFC right? Look at the tach on the SAFC. Is that what is telling you 1000rpm?
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ok, update and to clarify:
I have taken the safc out.
I have taken the intake manifold appart, tightened and replaced most vacuum hoses.
checked the rest of the hoses, the ones that were not replaced I'm sure are good.
put in new gaskets (obviously)

Now, when I start the car, it starts right away, then goes to 3000 rpm, stays there for a few seconds, then drops to 200 rpm, then jumps to 1000 rpm, then dies.

IF I control it using the gas pedal, I can keep the car steady at 3000, then I drop it to 2000, by the time the car warms up, I can have the tach gauge at 1000, it is pretty solid (indicating no vacum leak).... but then if I let go of the gas pedal, the car turns off.

I have a big hunch its the TPS... and I'll put the other one on tomorrow and see if that works.

any ideas? agree? disagree that its the TPS?
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Regarding the Idle issue:

Just got back from a rotary shop, they said that because I havent adjusted my TPS and my thermowax is the main reason for my idle issue, and the K&N air cone filter is another cause of air issues as well as the air pump not being connected...

So... I'm gonna go through the online FSM to see how to adjust the tps and the thermowax...

then I'm putting on the airpump... anyone got any tricks on making that bracket go on?

then I'm doing a coolant flush, putting on the fan shroud, then putting the stock air box back... gotta go buy a K&N air filter replacement...

after all that is done, I should have a solid idle...

Regarding the body:


I just bought a Mother's Clay Bar Paint saving system... I gotta go pick up some 2000 grit sand paper... wet sand the remaning key marks, then clay bar the whole car, and give it another Zymol wax...


Took some new pics with the turbo hood on. just posted them on Photobucket.

Enjoy, and thanks again for all input and in advance for any incoming input.


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