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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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Has anyone painted their car in the Rustoleum Sunrise Red? Pics would be awesome too, but I'm goin for it either way in another week...
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by YaNi
Has anyone painted their car in the Rustoleum Sunrise Red? Pics would be awesome too, but I'm goin for it either way in another week...
i did... its very very dull.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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it was dull even after wetsanding and polishing?
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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I just spent the last 3.5 hours sanding the hood with 400 grit... had so much orange peel it wasn't even funny. Seems that only the hood was affected by orange peel. Most of the other peices were in pretty good shape. Well, the light covers were pretty bad too. Fenders look to be in good shape.

What's causing the orange peel? Thick or thin mixture?
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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Orange peel is usually caused by one of the following:

- Under reduction and/or air pressure too low.
- Thinner/reducer evaporates too fast for spray conditions.
- Excessive film thickness or piling on of heavy wet coats.
- Improper spray gun set-up.
- Improper painting technique.

In this case, I'm guessing you are using the roller technique (didn't read back to see where you started) so some of these things don't apply for the obvious reason, you're not spraying. However, the reducer/thinner (mineral spirits) could very possibly be evaporating too quickly in your given painting conditions. This could also be directly relative to the surface temperature of what you're painting. It's gotta be cool, cool and dry, just like the air around you should be. Another factor, like you mentioned (and I'm sure it has something to do with it) is the consistency of your mix. I don't know because I haven't tried this, but I would think that the tolerance for making the desireable paint/spirits mix is a very narrow one.

If you're in E-town Kentucky, I know for a fact it has been wayyyy humid and hot out for a while now, and conditions like these do have a great effect on your paint. Give me all the info on where, when, and how you're doing it.

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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 11:52 PM
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i did 1000, then 1500, then went at it with 3m scratch remover for 1200 grit polish.
and just wash your hands in goof off or some other toxic chemical.
youre going to need a finer sand paper after 1200 for 3m scratch remover to work effectively. it should remove 2000grit marks.

btw i remove regular orange peels from factory cars with 2000 grit then 3k grit... and polish the fine scratches out. works great. but i have to go very gentile or else it takes off to much paint.

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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 07:01 AM
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LexTalionis502: Come to think of it, the hood and lights were being beat on by the sun all day. I was having a problem with my paint drying too fast and it wasn't settling by itself. I guess that's my culprit.

I assume sanding one peice shouldn't take 3+ hours like this unless something went horribly wrong (serious orange peel). So I'm hoping this is an isolated incident and I won't be deterred by the amount of work I've had to put into this hood.

I think I'm going to try to save some time and dry sand the rest of the hood (i never even finished last night) with a finishing sander, then go back over it with a wet sand. Hopefullly this will save some time and repair the damage done.
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 01:39 AM
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Maybe I missed in the last few pages, but what was the general ratio of paint/spirits? I'm going to give this stuff a try this fall after my Solo II season is done and I don't need the car every week.
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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hell yes! i'm glad to see someone use the blue. i thought i was going to be the first, but nope. anywho, i'm about to start painting my TII soon (well, within a month or so). and as i did on the FB, i will be spraying it. that blue looks even better than i expected!!!

the thing i learned the most from this paint... and i have said this earlier... is that the MIXTURE IS KEY TO SUCCESS!!!! hahaha you gotta get that ratio right!
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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is that the MIXTURE IS KEY TO SUCCESS!!!! hahaha you gotta get that ratio right!
So what is it?
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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Paintjob on a budget. Total cost of my upcoming paintjob: $60. A friend of mine runs a body shop and said he'd paint the car if I bought him lunch and brought paint. Another friend of mine works at a body shop and said he'd hook me up with any paint/primer/clear I wanted for $60.

I'll post pics and vids.
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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no one cares about your stupid 3rd gen. d= and i hope you're painting it montego blue...
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 93VRTouring
Paintjob on a budget. Total cost of my upcoming paintjob: $60. A friend of mine runs a body shop and said he'd paint the car if I bought him lunch and brought paint. Another friend of mine works at a body shop and said he'd hook me up with any paint/primer/clear I wanted for $60.

I'll post pics and vids.
what else does he want?
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by drft_180sx
no one cares about your stupid 3rd gen. d= and i hope you're painting it montego blue...
sorry..

It's getting painted either Midnight Black or Metalic Flake Black, haven't decided yet.
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 06:10 AM
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heres my progress with the gloss black
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 07:59 AM
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^ bigger pics please?
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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so any updates?
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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I am gonna start mime next weekend. Its not gonna be an rx-7 but Ill post some pics anyways. All I have to do this week is prep the body, so that mean fun fun. Sandung metal work, filler primer, block sand, and just trying to make all the mines strait then Ill start.
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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I need to take the hood back down to nothing. I just didn't do enough prep. Some of the other peices look good, but I just can't get it to go as dark as the paint dries by itself (without mineral spirits). Also just haven't had the time to get her done.
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dkwasherexd
heres my progress with the gloss black
more bigger pics?
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons
more bigger pics?
+1

i need to paint on of my FCs gloss (or possibly satin) black so lets see how this **** turns out dammit!
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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seems like the paint in the pics still looks dull... it still looks very cheap like maaco paint..
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 01:34 PM
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This may have already been mentioned (I didn't read all 30 pages) but I just noticed that O'Reilly Auto Parts has started stocking the Duplicolor true paints (the ones you mix and shoot with a gun) in Black, White, Red, and Blue Metallic. $40 /gallon for white and black, $60 for red and $50 for blue, plus the reducer gives you a basecoat paint job for under $90. If you weren't particular about the color, this seems like the way to go. We'll probably use the Red on my wife's 1988 BMW 325i Convertible, so I'll post pictures when that happens. (I'm sure I'll use clear on it, too, though.)
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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i just started to put primer on my fromt bumper cover. i do have to say it looks pretty decent. i still have alot of sanding work cuz i used paint stripper a while back and i thought i fubar'ed it. i'll post pics as soon as i get home
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Old Jul 31, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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yeah, I've done that before. Paint stripper and plastic pieces = bad news. I only stripped the paint on my first car, and it didn't turn out so well. Nowadays, I just use 320 grit sandpaper to rough up the coat already on the car and spray over that. If it's different colors, you may want to go with a primer between the old paint to save on color. Also, something I'm just now learning, spraying tons of color just increases the odds you'll get something in the paint. Shoot just enough color to make it even all the way around the car. Once the color is even, the clear will add the depth.
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