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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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ok, new AC problem

i just added freon to the car and first it started huming loudly on the passenger side of the car and vibrating the car slightly. it would go away after a while.

another can later, it wouldn't go away.

then the compressor starts spitting freon out at the firewall. i checked to see where it was coming from but couldn't.

do i have a blockage in the interior a/c parts? did i charge the a/c too much? is there a check part on the compressor that lets off excess freon (like a machine gun)?
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 06:22 PM
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Did you vacuum the system down? Has it been converted from R-12 to R134A?

If you are mixing the two types together, you can cause all sorts of problems. I haven't been able to get a straight answer, but it varies from causing the system to either freeze (no freon movement) or blowing o-rings out and as high as blowing out the compressor.
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 06:39 PM
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That is usually a good sign you need to check the flow through the condenser coils and valve. The compressor has a pressure relief valve that pops when there is a blockage or overcharge. You might have other issues as well, so give it a good look.
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 07:02 PM
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i've figued that theres a clog in the condenser. could that be from too much oil?

fwiw, it's a 134 convert that was opened up earlier today.
i put in 1 oil
then 3 freon
then another oil
then another freon.
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 08:49 PM
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Sometimes when doing the convertion, all the moisture is not removed from the system. When you put in the 134, it freezes the moisture in the metering system and creates a block. I think, also, you put too much 134 in the system. This is just judging by what you said though.

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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 10:32 PM
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Yes, there is definitely too much freon in the system.

Our cars only take 2.5 cans of freon. The $33 kits you buy at Walmart or Meijer come with three cans (11 oz each I believe) and it took me just over 2 cans to charge my system from empty.

I vacuumed it down and then added the freon. Been working like a champ for 2 yrs. now
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 11:16 PM
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ok, the car's been converted for years, i just added freon

should i let it pop until the humming stops?

i hate A/Cs
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 08:35 AM
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I hate to say it, but I think the guys are right.....it sounds like a blockage someplace.

If you keep adding freon, it may cause a blowout in the compressor or the evaporator (which is a royal pain in the **** to get to).

I would either get some gauges to see how much freon is left in the system or else get it vacuumed down again to remove any moisture in the system. I think they are right and it iced up on you.

If freon somehow got out, then moist air also got in the system.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 08:40 AM
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Also the expansion valve may be stuck. (same symptoms)
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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where's that at?
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 10:06 AM
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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take it to a certified HVAC shop (most gas station are cert.) ask them to look into it.
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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Is it that important to you to have the AC in there? I ripped mine out, waste of space IMHO, but I guess it depends where you live eh?
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by projekt
where's that at?
The expansion valve controls the pressure drop at the evaporator behind the glove box.

The S4 on-line manual has a Heat & AC section.

Last edited by SureShot; Jul 1, 2004 at 11:47 AM.
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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Is it that important to you to have the AC in there? I ripped mine out, waste of space IMHO, but I guess it depends where you live eh?
yeah canada and south florida are a little different climate-wise
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by Colbert
Is it that important to you to have the AC in there? I ripped mine out, waste of space IMHO, but I guess it depends where you live eh?
yeah canada and south florida are a little different climate-wise
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