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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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Question OIL METERING PUMP QUEST>>>>PLEASE HELP

wanted to no if the OMP controlls the how much oil is being burned
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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yeah, the more you step on the gas inturn moves the link to the omp (if S4)
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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now i have a problem i did an oil change there was no leaks nothin was qrong with the car until my engine blew, the machanics said it had no oil, do you think the OMP had something t do with this.....please help
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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no leaks and nothing wrong....then your motor blew...sorry to hear my friend.

when you did the oil change, did you tighten the drain plug in there? what was the amount of time between changing your oil and your motor blowing?

WAIT A SECOND - you might have put mineral oil in when it used to have synthetic, that'll pop your motor everytime, no questions asked (sarcasm, and cruel sarcasm at that)

Although to answer your question it most likely had NOTHING to do the omp.
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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jeah but i got a rebuilt....and its still doin it
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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got a rebuild and its still doin it? doing what? running? not running?

I don't understand this thread at all....the OMP injects oil directly onto your apex seals and rotors at higher rpm....in that capacity it controls how much oil is being "burned"....that answers the question of this thread....

now what is the car still "doing" having no oil in it?having some oil in it? explain for the love of god
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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now i have a problem i did an oil change there was no leaks nothin was qrong with the car until my engine blew, the machanics said it had no oil, do you think the OMP had something t do with this.....please help
A car without a OMP will run for tens of thousands of miles before it goes **** up.

A OMP does not feed oil to the bearings, that is the role of the OIL PUMP on the front side housing that picks oil up from the pan and sends it thru the oil cooler.....to the filter assy.........to the bearings..............to the OMP.

There is a picture in the free, online fsm of the lubrication system.
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 08:05 PM
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The engine ran out of oil and blew. That means you are not using the dipstick frequently enough.
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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your engine blew cause you didnt put any oil in it... check your dipstick.. dipstick
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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no check this out guys....my engine had 78,000mls when it blew the car just kept beeping it wouldn't show me anything on the dummy lights. Then i said to myself let me put oil in it and it stopped, but then it happend again this time i said hell with it and took out the fuse, it stopped beeping, started drivin it and BAM my engine blew...I got a rebuilt from Rx7 world. Now i still have the old pieces from the old engine on the new engine, and its still doin it the guy from rx7 world told me that it can only be that witch is the OMP because that cotrolls the oil being burnt im i correct. I just want to make sure, cuz my cousins car doesn't do that....
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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*it happend again this time i said hell with it and took out the fuse, it stopped beeping, started drivin it ************

Is this the humor section of the second generation site? Or what.
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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LOOK dude, omp does nothing but shoot oil into your rotors during high throttle/rpm. Meaning it is just a feature to make your rotors run smoother(which is a good thing). If anything you probally forgot to put ur oil pan bolt back in and it drained all the oil, or you probally forgot to put it in after your oil change. Tell me, did you change it urself though? If it was jiffylube or somewhere you can sue em.
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 09:48 PM
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look dude, if you dont no mind ur business iight, i think i no how to change oil, now if a guy from Rx7 world told me this i just want to make sure you no ,this guy biulds motors sells, etc check out his site dude rx7world.com, so can somebody please answer the question
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 09:50 PM
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You need to learn how to explain things better.





OK since you have no idea how the engine or the omp works, DO NOT TOUCH anything anymore or you will spend more and more money of popped engines. So putting in oil stops the beeping, but then after a while it starts beeping again. Doesnt that tell you something? Keep an eye on your oil levels, even on piston motors its good to check at every fill up. Off the top off my head, the omp is supposed to use about 1 litre of oil for every 1000 miles. If you are losing oil faster than that, you have a leak somewhere and its you need to find it. It could be one of many things, look around for leaks on your driveway, in the engine. Oil just doesnt dissapear, if a huge amount is being burnt, you should be able to smell it in the exhuast off the bat.
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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looks like you dont have an idea, i check my levels all the time my oil pressure is always reading the same and it still beeps. Oh yeah and there is no oil stain there is no leaks so come on someone tell me what iy coul be and like i said before "IF YOU DONT NO MIND UR BUSINESS IIGHT"........Next...oh yeah and remember the man that built my engine told me this we tried everything else fellas, so i just want to double check to make sure it is the OMP
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 10:19 PM
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Ok. You might be saying that they told you the OMP was delivering too much oil and might be the cause of the oil disappearing in the pan and causing the engine to sieze up.

So. Do a operational check of the OMP. Just download the FSM for your years car and follow the instructions in the LUBRICATION sectiion.

It's simple. Disconnect one of the lines off the omp and put a cup under the open hole on the OMP where the banjo bolt was. Start and run the engine at 2000 rpm WHILE you hold the OMP rod fully in the UP position. Do this for five minutes. Measure the oil caught in the cup and compare it to the limits in the FSM, Lubrication section.

It's easier if you have a spare OMP banjo bolt and attach a line to it and install it in the place of the line you took off the OMP. Then put the other end of that new line in a graduated beaker/container and do what I described above.

Ah, come on now. You didn't REALLY pull the fuse out to stop the beeping, did you? Nah. Of course not. You were pulling our legs. I like to believe so anyway.
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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uh no, I actually built a few of these engines, and mine are STILL running.

Your question was
Originally Posted by mfresh422
wanted to no if the OMP controlls the how much oil is being burned
It was answered with a yes.

So then you ask
the machanics said it had no oil, do you think the OMP had something t do with this.....please help
That was answered wiht indepth answers that you are most likely losing oil somewhere. You OBVIOUSLY dont know whats going on, so why the hell are you shooting down our suggestions off the bat?
You really should check out what we are saying its the best way to get your moneys worth out of this club's membership dues.... oh wait, we are here for free.
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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my man i wasn't joking the noise wouldn't stop and i didn't no what it was, so thats what i did and thats why my engine blew cause of the oil, somehow it all disappeared no leaks no nothing i just want to make sure its the OMP
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 11:10 PM
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did this guy who rebuilt your motor put the oil seals on the rotors? oil doesn't just magicaly disapear. did the car smoke alot? blue smoke? what was your oil pressure reading? 0?!?! it is very possible that your OMP is indeed bad. the reason your motor blew was because it didn't have enough oil. either an OMP was to blame or it was user error. its kinda hard to run an engine with no oil.
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 11:23 PM
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You got a pissed off ex-girlfriend that knows how to change oil??? I dunno, I'm just throwing ideas out here. If you try and remove your oil meterign lines, there is a pretty good chance you'll break them if they are the originals, depending on whether rx7world put new ones or not.

When you check the dipstick, is there the normal oil level???
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