oil filter pedestal leak, NOT o-rings!
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oil filter pedestal leak, NOT o-rings!
WTF?? all the sudden earlier this week i started having a look at my oil filter pedestal. i was a little shock since its a new motor and thus the o-rings are new but i thought, ok, ill replace the orings, no big deal. so i get 2 new orings via my local mazda dealership (OEMs the only way). well that did not fix the problem. AND im sure that the pedestal is tightened down all the way (thought that could be a problem too so i made sure that its tight. anyways, it still leaks, any ideas?? it is an aftermarket pedestal with two ports (one blocked, the other runs as a oil feed line to my turbo). thanks guys, its driving me nuts.
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o crap, that sucks! but no, its not broke, and nither port is leaking (i thought that may be it too but its leaking from under the pedestal, the area all around it on the sides is clean). actually, its leaking from one spot in particular: right around the rear stud/nut. the front one is clean. also, i dont think its leaking from anywhere else, when i took the pedestal off i saw no other point that were oily, but just to make sure, ill check again when i pull it back off. any other ideas?? thanks so far guys
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yea, its definately not the nipple on the center iron, i physically watched it drip from the pedestal. also 87 t-66: i just read your thread, that effing blows, i immediately went and looked at mine, that center stud is tig welded to the base thank god. lastly, how tight are those nuts supposed to be? they were on pretty tight so i dont think thats the prob...im just stumped, the only thing that i can think of now is a possible crack in the pedestal mount (not the pedestal itself, thats definately ok, but the part on the rear iron that the pedestal bolts to)???? i thought maybe an oring poppped out of place upon assembly. but they were in there spot when i pulled it....i am fresh out of ides guyss.....please help me or mail me some cyanide...!!!
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i really sont think so, or at least i hope not....the leak is not toooooo fast (about 1 drop every 4-5 seconds) but definately enough to worry about. i tried to inspect the iron but its so hard to see up in there. what do you think? it did start happening all of the sudden the other day.
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if it is, im seriously hoping one of you guys gives me that cyanide....this is a fresh rebuild with only ~600 miles on it. i have not beat on it at all. 0 boost and the highest ive taken it is ~3200 rpm.
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I had one of those on for a oil temp meter and had the same kind of leak, one drop every 4-5 seconds. When I removed it the pedestral, everything was fine. Did a search on here and found several similar cases. Apperantly those pedestral things cause problems on most rotary engines, lots of replies saying 'don't use those things'.
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I had one of those on for a oil temp meter and had the same kind of leak, one drop every 4-5 seconds. When I removed it the pedestral, everything was fine. Did a search on here and found several similar cases. Apperantly those pedestral things cause problems on most rotary engines, lots of replies saying 'don't use those things'
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thats what i figured, and i couldnt see a crack, so if it exists, its on the underside of the mount.
that blows. i have never heard of other ppl having probs? if it was just for an oil temp meter, id take it off and replace the stock, but i need to source oil for my turbo. i would like to put the stock one back on to see if that leaks, but then my turbo gets no oil while im checking!!! any other good places to source oil from that would not require removing and welding of something (i just wanna check to see if the stock pedestal will leak.) i kno i can use the oil cooler lines, but that would be a long term solution.
that blows. i have never heard of other ppl having probs? if it was just for an oil temp meter, id take it off and replace the stock, but i need to source oil for my turbo. i would like to put the stock one back on to see if that leaks, but then my turbo gets no oil while im checking!!! any other good places to source oil from that would not require removing and welding of something (i just wanna check to see if the stock pedestal will leak.) i kno i can use the oil cooler lines, but that would be a long term solution.
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both of these are valid ideas, and either one would be easy since there in the same area and my ss feed line is alreadt the right length.
on another note, is there a way i could supply oil to the turbo (short of manually) while i start the car and let it idle with the stock pedestal on to make sure thats the prob? thanks
on another note, is there a way i could supply oil to the turbo (short of manually) while i start the car and let it idle with the stock pedestal on to make sure thats the prob? thanks
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guys i called my local hydraulic shop today to get the neccessary fittings to source oil from the pressure sender hole. tommorow ill hook that up and put the factory pedestal back on. hopefully that solves it, and ill be happy. if not and there is a ppressure crack in the rear iron, i will be F***ing pissed. what could i do> pull the motor and weld the crack? PUT A NEW IRON IN?????! hope not.
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My rear iron cracked, and the symptoms - oil under the pedestal - sound similar to yours. Mine was also on a recent rebuild - and could have been stressed previously as the iron was reused.
Because the FC engine mounts in the centre, there is some twisting stress on the rear of the engine when launching hard. It's possible that the iron could have been weakened to the point of cracking and it's just now failed.
If it's happened, then the engine will need to be rebuilt with another rear iron - but try to get the stronger iron with larger dowell seat casting and the triangular strengthening piece.
I'd also suggest putting some thread sealant in your threads for the oil nipples, as oil will happily track down the threads
Because the FC engine mounts in the centre, there is some twisting stress on the rear of the engine when launching hard. It's possible that the iron could have been weakened to the point of cracking and it's just now failed.
If it's happened, then the engine will need to be rebuilt with another rear iron - but try to get the stronger iron with larger dowell seat casting and the triangular strengthening piece.
I'd also suggest putting some thread sealant in your threads for the oil nipples, as oil will happily track down the threads
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yea, the filter/gasket was good. im really freaking out tho about this, i just dunno how it could be cracked, i mean i have given it zero boost and nothing over 3200rpm. no launch, nothing... guess ill find out tommorow, if the rain lets up
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thanks jesus the one and only saviour. i tee'd off oil from the pressure sensor to feed the turbo and put the stock pedestal on. NO LEAKS. i am so relieved that i am not even mad i spent money on the speedmachines pedestal, just glad to have it off. i will never use one again. thanks for all the help guys.
altho 87 t-66's experience and my own vary greatly in terms of severity, let this be proof that these filter pedestals (or at least the speed machines ones) should be banned!
altho 87 t-66's experience and my own vary greatly in terms of severity, let this be proof that these filter pedestals (or at least the speed machines ones) should be banned!
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