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Old 03-06-05, 04:31 PM
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nothing happens when i turn the key.. what's that starter clip for?

so let's start over from the begining.. i bought an S4 SE. it was stripped of almost everything under the hood and the interior wiring harness was a complete mess. so i swapped the harness from my s4 GXL into the SE. i've got power to my starter, fuse box, and alternator. i hooked up almost everything that needs to be hooked up under the dash. when i turn the ignition, nothing happens.

mind you, i have the motor, coils, etc. in already. but the intercooler piping, rad. hoses, etc. are not hooked up. i don't want it to START it obviously. i just want it to get power so i can look up some stuff on my microtech hand controller. the battery is a new optima relocated to the rear.

i feel everything is hooked up. the grounding is good and every thing.

but what's that clip on the starter for? is that suppose to go to the ingnition? it looks like every thing is hooked up under there? the FSM doesn't say what it's for or where is goes. i'm guessing i could just run a wire from the starter and splice it to one of the wires for the ignition?

thanks for any help. my *** is worn out from this project..
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Isn't that clip the solenoid switch wich actually tells the starter to... start?
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Are you talking about the single prong on the start? There should be a black clip that goes onto it.
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ok, i hooked that up. still nothing.

wait... i think it was a white clip that lead to the starter prong, not black. the wire color is yellow/red.
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wellll.. yellow red is also the wire color the oil pressure gauge, sensor, and condensor...

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in a nut shell
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Originally Posted by Kenteth
wellll.. yellow red is also the wire color the oil pressure gauge, sensor, and condensor...

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bah! i did search and all i came up with was a bunch of threads about how to install a starter push button.

Project84, it's the ignition tab! can you or anyone else tell me what color that wire is?

till then, i'll just try and search for the answer

edit-

reted's quote said that it was a blue wire, but wasn't sure. anyone wanna confirm this? it's raining outside and dark.(i.e. i'm being a lazy whimp )

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Is that a zip tie?
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That wire on a series four, runs from the starter.......to the plug that attaches to the starter cut relay if you have theft protection (if no theft protection, then it goes to a jumper in the plug that would attach to the starter cut relay).....from there it goes to the clutch interlock switch and from there to the ignition switch.

It's right there in the online fsm, that is a free download.
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too bad my adobe is craping out on me.. i think i need to update it or something..

oh well. thanks for the help. i'll let you know if this is it..(probably is)
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ah, ok.. so i went out and i found that red and black wire that leads to the ignition under the dash. i followed that wire tooooo....... NOTHING. it's been terminated. i DID have an aftermarket alarm installed, but that wire has been cut.

i downloaded adobe 7.0... it's STILL not working..
so i've searched even more and found a quote from sonicrat..

Modify the starter wiring. For now you'll leave off the stock trigger wire, the smaller of the 2 starter wires. Cut a 6 foot length of 14 gage wire, attatch the proper terminal, and run it through the firewall for later connection to the ignition switch

For the ignition switch wires, leave one disconnected...it is thick, black with a red stripe, and the only wire on it's plug. Find your starter trigger wire you ran earlier, and connect it to this wire...the end of the wire that comes from the ignition switch. This bypasses all the automatic interlocks that will keep you from starting. IF you wish to have a functional clutch pedal interlock, find the clutch pedal switch and first run your starter wire through that, then into the ignition switch.
i'm not sure what he says about the clutch switch. do i just do this:

the starter>the clutch switch wire>the other clutch switch wire>the red/black ignition wire
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should only have to go through the clutch switch once i thought?
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we HAVE already established that there is powuh to the starter through the fat wire from the batt and that is IS properly grounded (negative), right?
When you turn the key, does it click like the solenoid is trying to go?
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no, it doesn't click. see, my ignition is not hooked up to anything at all. so nothing will be clicking. i have everything else wired nice and smoothly, no problem there.

remember, i am NOT trying to start the car. i am just trying to get the acc. to turn on.
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ok... took a pic today.

you can see the clutch switch and the two wires coming out of it. which wire do i splice for the black and red wire?

believe me. if i can open up the manual, i'd be all over it...
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What's up, Logan

Hmm, first thing I would do is check that the blue ACC feed wire to the cabin fuse box has voltage when the key is turned. This will tell you whether the problem lies before the ignition switch, or after. Might also be a good idea to check the main black feed into the ignition switch for power, because if you ain't getting it there, it's no wonder everything is dead.

I'm assuming here that the main fuse is good...

BTW, I still haven't torn down that tranny completely for overhaul yet, lol...
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hey wayne, you not here as often anymore to help us dumb folks out...

i'll try and check those wires after work tomorrow. all fuses are good, i know that. i also know that the harness is somewhat cut up.... great.

hurry up with that tranny man! you'll feel better when you have that extra insurance.
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Yeah, gettin' tired of seeing the same questions over and over, lol...Gotta take a break from it every now and then

You need to get your hands on the schematics in the FSM wiring manual- for a problem such as this you're going to have to start at square one and work your way down the circuits...

I'll get to the tranny one of these days, lol...
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