i was thinking to myself why would anyone buy a non turbo when the turbo is so much better (in my opinion)
so i would like to know is why you who own non turbos
bought a non turbo instead of a turbo
was it price?
was it availability?
or was it something that i am unaware of?

 

for me sir it was all three, there was a price issue, an availability issue, and to top it off ive had my fun with turbo charged vehicles for a while. i had an 85 saab 900 turbo 2 liter four cyl. DOHC 16 valve. dont get me wrong, the car hauld some serious *** but it wasnt a good daily driver. untill i have enough money in the bank at all times to replace a turbo or have my motor rebuilt due to a poped rotor, then i will have a turbo fc.

plus, i am planning on buying a carbon locked or worn out 13b and building it to the N/A hilt! i can pull an easy 280 horses out of an N/A 13b. and in a car as small as my FC, thats a lot of poney!

 

but turbo 2nd gens are so inexpensive now and can produce much more power than that
and you can never get much torque out of a N/A

 

I got one because i wanted a reliable, sexy(mm...red), quick--not fast--good handling sports car.

I could have easily gotten a turbo, but instead i got an NA red FC in near perfect shape, and popped a new street ported motor in it.

Besides... it scares me to think of the trouble i'd have gotten in with a turno

 

I myself own a turbo, I craved the psi, the price tag is ok, and I love the way it runs, but in my opinion, if you are going to build an na monster car and a turbo monster car, they would both be considered excellent cars in their own way, plus na doesn't have to deal with lag, it has power on command.

 

How do you plan on getting that much power out of it?

-Joe

 

i bought my na for more then i paid for my turbo... my n/a was properly taken care of not ragged on low miles.. adult owned... easier on gas and just enough horse to be fun... = awesome daily driver... as for the turbo .. it will make one hell of a weekend car =)

 

main reason for many, they are cheaper to buy and operate. Better gas milage is a big plus for me as i drive mine to and from college everyday about 40 minutes each way. and there is always the fun of beating other cars and then telling them your 7 is NA, my NA runs a 15.2, is relaible and gets about 23 mpg, all those numbers should only go up when i get my SAFC-II tuned on a dyno. Don't get me wrontg i'd love to have a turbo, but a NA rx-7 is a great car, also i think there are more around to choose from at least here, i know of 3 NAs i could buy right now but haven't ever seen a turbo around here

 

I think its availability. You can find tons of na's out thier but not many t2's.

 

well for starters all the emissions **** is comming off!

re build motor with new housings

with full set of racing seals and bearings all around.

polish and agressive street port.

pair of RB high compression racing rotors.

under drive pullys.

larger, maped and blue printed injectors.

full RB exhaust

RB upper intake, ported and polished.

re maped computer (eventually upgrade to a haltech)

aluminum racing flywheel

cold air induction

that just about covers it, a friend of mine pulled 280 out of a carbed 13b and he said that we could do the same with a FI motor. after he put a racing flywheel on his he gaind some 14 hp at top end.

also i designed my own little cryo-intake cooler. i havent built it yet so i have no pics. its all in my head, and on a piece of paper that i havent even let my girlfriend see! all i can tell you is that it involves compressed co2 rather than nitros.

hopefully with all of these mods ill be able to see numbers in the 300's!

-chris

 

P.S.

once i get the cryo-intake cooler fully tested and proven, ill produce some kits. prices for full kits may range in price cause i have to do all the fabricating. im thinkin maybe starting at 500 bones.

the only thing not included in these kits will be the pipe for the cold air intake. kits will be produced upon order with a 50% deposit and a doner CAI of your choice shipped to me. id say maybe a 2-3 week turnaround.

once again, this product is still in the works.

chris

 

My NA had 536XX miles on it when I found it. I looked at a turbo before that with 110K miles.

 

What you are looking for from your car is simply different, I think. I believe people who are working on their NA rotaries are not just looking for high HP numbers (if so there is no reason to stay with NA).
BTW this might sound pretty stupid for most of you guys but I'd buy a FD next time and NA it

 

Well i just bought an NA last night, and the reason i bought it was it was near-perfect, and my craving for boost is already satisfied by my JZA70. However i probably still wouldnt have bought a turbo anyway, by now most are old enough to have been owned by someone that didnt maintain them properly, or have een modded and heavily overboosted.

 

i got mine for free.....nothing beats a free car

 

i got a n/a and love it not the fastest rx7 around but it always runs and I have'nt had so much fun out of a car in a long time,over 250 passes at the strip and a few track days as well without 1 problemwith it. All the turbo guys are either fixing their car or it is running like **** but when the turbo 7's are running good watch out-

 

As answered before, the non-turbo is a better sports car than the turbo and much better balanced.

The Turbo is better for going fast, but a non-turbo the stock 5 lugs with upgraded to Turbo size wheels and tires will easily out handle and out brake a Turbo hands down.

Toss in the reliability factor and cost factors, and for many people the choice is only a non-turbo.

Then, remember for the Sport and GTUs models, they were only a half second slower than the S4 Turbo models in the 0-60.

 

I'll put it this way. My Old Sport was a slutty bitch. The two turbo rx-7's I have driven feel like mild virgins. The N/a you can stick it to and she will ask for more but the turbo just does not want it sometimes and moves ackwardly.

 

No body mentioned the fact that the NA is atleast 150 lbs lighter?

Iv driven S4 turbo and own a s4 NA....there is a big difference in handling response and throttle input response etc. Am I the only one that feels this way?

 

i agree! t2's do require some savvy when takeing the corners. they are good point and shoot cars thats for sure! i just like the even power of my N/A when negotiating corners at speed.

 

When I bought my FC..I just wanted a excellent condition one. Turbo ir N/A didnt matter to me, it just needed to be in mint shape. I found my '86 GXL, with ~90k on it, in near perfect condition, and bought it for $2400. In the course of the next 2 years or so, I pretty much went as far as I could go power-wise with the stock port engine. (not going to list all mods, but I had a good bit, car was capable of mid-high 14s in the 1/4) Then I just wanted more power, so I bought a beat T2 and am now swapping the engine/drivetrain into my N/A, with a goal of ~300rwhp

Just a question though, have you ever driven a lightly modded N/A? I dont think youd see the lack of power as such a downside. I literally could push the car to the edge all the time, and it just took it. Not sure exactly what it is, but it just feels so much easier to beat the **** out of, than a T2. More linear power curve, less weight, etc.. Both have their advantages, but dont shortchange the N/A. Put it this way, after my T2 is done..Im getting another N/A. I miss it.

 

I personally believe that N/A sports cars are the greatest things ever, although my favorite car of all time is the FD I wish it came with a 3 rotor N/A engine instead...then it would truly be perfect (but I guess you can't be perfect w/out SOME "blemish") but none the less it's still the greatest. Anyway I like N/A cars much more because they're just part of you if you know what I mean. A turbo car is always just that tid bit away from you like it has a different mind than you. The N/A thinks like you, acts like you, it just becomes YOU. I love turbo cars and all, but the N/A is a better handling, more responsive, more soulful, more PURE sports car hands down.

Now then...if you just want a fast car then screw it and just get a turbo. If you're happy with a seriously quick *** car that handles like a true beast there is only one way to go...