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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 07:16 AM
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need to know if i can put remote start on my car

hey guys i have a viper 550 remote start/ alarm and i heard that it was bad for the rotary motor, does anyone know if that is true or not.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 07:42 AM
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I have a Viper remote on one of my Jeeps, and can't see why it would be bad for a rotary. In cold weather most will start the car and let it idle a few minutes before driving. The only problem I would envision is that if your car is a 5 speed and can be started in gear. If it starts in gear, it's gone. A Chrysler dealership near me activated a customer's remote to start the car. It started in gear and drove into 3 cars.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 08:26 AM
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Remote start on a manual transmission is an act of insanity.

But if it is an auto, I dont see how it could hurt a rotary
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 08:32 AM
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There was just a large topic on this a few days back. If you search "remote start", you should find it.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by darkart7ven
hey guys i have a viper 550 remote start/ alarm and i heard that it was bad for the rotary motor, does anyone know if that is true or not.
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I've had one on mine for 3 years and both the car and the owner are very happy with it.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 08:50 AM
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a friend of mine had a remote starter on his car before he sold it (the car, not the remote start), and once, at my house, he was starting it in gear, but as it was turning (the car didn't actually start), he saw the car lurching forward and was like uh oh!

just make sure you leave the car in neutral when you park it!
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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If the system is set up properly, leaving it in gear should NOT be an issue. There's a reason why cars have a neutral safety switch and clutch switch....

All this was covered in the other topic.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
All this was covered in the other topic.

Are you going to keep saying that or are you going to post a link to it?
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 09:37 AM
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I'm not clear on that answer. Your not sure why a car needs to be in neutral for it to start? Come on! Cars with carbarators and manual transmissions are not ment to be put on car starters. Manufacturers will not even warrenty ones that were.
Its absolutly dangerous to put a car starter on a manual car. As stated before the car will lerch foward. Next time you get into your car, start it while its in gear without pressing the clutch and you will see why.

Just my 2 cents
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 09:58 AM
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Its absolutly dangerous to put a car starter on a manual car.
No, it isn't.

Ther are remote starter units specifically designed for MT. They have a switch that prevents the car from starting if it is in gear.

Or you can be like me and put an AT unit in your car and train yourself to leave it out of gear when you park.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 10:20 AM
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Are you going to keep saying that or are you going to post a link to it?
Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach him to fish....blah blah blah.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by John64
....

.... Next time you get into your car, start it while its in gear without pressing the clutch and you will see why.


Just my 2 cents
Respectfully, you'll see nothing on a stock RX. There is a switch on the clutch which prevents the starter from energizing unless the clutch pedal is completely depressed - whether it's in gear or not.

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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 01:55 PM
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Got one on my 7 and love it. It's very nice to warm my car on the cold mornings we have been getting in CO.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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Well, as usual the big guns come through:

https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/remote-start-5-speed-s4-n-362484/
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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i hope that all of you know that you didnt answer his question "hey guys i have a viper 550 remote start/ alarm and i heard that it was bad for the rotary motor"

he didnt ask about manual or automatic he asked about a ROTARY ENGINE.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
I have a Viper remote on one of my Jeeps, and can't see why it would be bad for a rotary. In cold weather most will start the car and let it idle a few minutes before driving. The only problem I would envision is that if your car is a 5 speed and can be started in gear. If it starts in gear, it's gone. A Chrysler dealership near me activated a customer's remote to start the car. It started in gear and drove into 3 cars.
I think I answered the question earlier.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach him to fish....blah blah blah.

Teach = nag?


Ever heard of Delineation?
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 05:09 PM
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i hope that all of you know that you didnt answer his question
What part of "I've had one on mine for 3 years and both the car and the owner are very happy with it. " didn't answer his question?



he didnt ask about manual or automatic he asked about a ROTARY ENGINE.
There's a rotary engine in my 7. The 7 with the remote starter. The one that I drive every day, year round...
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 06:51 PM
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All a starter does is actuate your starter it works the same on every car including rotory. It will not harm the car. You can buy a starter that will not let you try and start the car in gear. It works because you have to turn the car off while its in neutral with the remote. I do not know if the starter you mentioned has that option though.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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The only problem I can see is a lot of rotaries are finicky when being started and need you to hit the gas, pump the gas, that sort of thing. If your car is operating properly and you can simply fire it up without touching the gas pedal and it will idle, you should have no problems at all.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 11:53 PM
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Its absolutly dangerous to put a car starter on a manual car.
No, it's only dangerous if it hasn't been installed properly. If the safeties are correctly wired up it's perfectly safe. If you're silly enough to do a half-assed job you'll get what you deserve...

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The only problem I can see is a lot of rotaries are finicky when being started and need you to hit the gas, pump the gas, that sort of thing.
That's got nothing to do with the rotary engine, it is purely because people insist on messing with (i.e. removing) their idle control systems.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 12:25 AM
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you know if you put your key in the ignition and turn the car on the same thing the remote starter does just no key involed in the procedure expect once you get in the car and want to drive way... and as mentioned before dont leave it in gear unless you have the switch... why would you leave it in gear anyway? if your e-brake suks dont be lazy and tighten uo your line and youll be fine
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 01:07 AM
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I dunno where you guys are i was told at a shop thta installs them that it is illegal in NY to put a remote start on a MT. Also, doesnt everyone put theyre car into nuetral befor shutting it off? I thouhg the car would buck if it was shut off in gear.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 02:14 AM
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That's got nothing to do with the rotary engine, it is purely because people insist on messing with (i.e. removing) their idle control systems.
I'm not saying a lot of folks don't screw with things better left alone, but not all of the problems are due to that - my rotary wouldn't idle worth a **** and it was bone stock. The common tricks of pulling the fuel pump fuse and pouring ATF into the spark plug holes wouldn't exist if there weren't some known issues. I refuse to believe that every single person who has had to do this so their RX7 would start had removed their idle-control systems. But I do believe if it fails to start without doing one of those tricks, a remote start will be nothing but a waste of time.


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I dunno where you guys are i was told at a shop thta installs them that it is illegal in NY to put a remote start on a MT. Also, doesnt everyone put theyre car into nuetral befor shutting it off? I thouhg the car would buck if it was shut off in gear.
If you're stopped and still in gear, you've got to have the clutch pushed in. You're effectively in neutral at that point. Turning the key off wouldn't have any effect other than shutting the engine off. A lot of people (myself included normally) like to leave the car in gear whenparked. I still pull the parking brake before I let the clutch out so it doesn't put stress on the transmission, but this way if the brake were to fail, the car wouldn't roll far before the transmission would hold it in place.

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