xxxbadassfoxxxx

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6770

is this close to the same thing as getting a cold air intake system but a lot cheaper...i mean would it do anything for me or is it a peice of junk

sunshine

iTrader: (3)

Dont waste your money on that. Your gonna get pos filtering from that thing. Get a real filter (apexi, hks, k&n) You can get the adaptors seperately.

As for the other part of your queston. No this is not a "cold air setup" Real cold air setups dont exist for FC's...most people here either fab up their own, or build a box and pipe in air form outside. I would recomend building a "cold air" box, so the filter does not suck in hot engine air. That is the easiest way to go. Do a search, there are numerous posts on ppls self designed boxes. Attomica (a forum mamber) built a real nice one from what I remember...do a search on his name.

xxxbadassfoxxxx

cool thanks a lot

xxxbadassfoxxxx

what about getting direct fit K&n for the airbox thats already in the car??? or would a cone filter improve my hp a lot more

sunshine

iTrader: (3)

No filter will improve your hp much. With the best possible setup, you will see an additional 2-4 hp. Thats about it.

Replacing the stock element, with the K&N drop in is def an imporvement over stock. IMO, thats the smartest/most affordable way to go. Next best is the cone. The best is cold air.

xxxbadassfoxxxx

ok thanks, i know what im gonna do

Icemark

I actually don't recommend a cone if you are in high rain or dirt climates and if you don't build a heat shield from the engine compartment.

On my Tacoma V6 truck they actually found that the K&N FIPK cone filter setup lowered HP over the stock element, because the cone actually had a lower filter area than the stock panel filter and the additional heat from the engine compartment.

While a couple of people have done Dyno testing of both the K&N and Apexi cone filters on a FC with minor HP increases, the additional heat (if there was not a cold air box built) degraded performance when the hood was closed.

So I actually am an advacate for doing the old school mods to the airbox, and keeping the cool air feed.

xxxbadassfoxxxx

but i was thinking about putting a cone on there and then trying to build some sort of contraption as a cold air box...would that still maybe take away horsepower? or is that the best thing i can do for the amount of money i would be spending..prob around like 60$

xxxbadassfoxxxx

and one more thing...what are those holes on the side of the air box in those pics you posted??? what do they do?

Icemark

They allow the air to be sucked in just behind the headlamp and fender gap as well as through the airbox assembly.

See, the stock air box is rather restrictive, but the drilling that I did (and what we all use to do back in the late 80's) allows the two biggest restrictions on the airbox to be removed.

See normally in the 3rd picture, there are no holes in that snorkle section, so the air must flow past the opening for the AFM in the bottom of the box. By putting those holes in it allows some of the air to travel in directly. A simple way to test to see if this works (which it does) is to simply look where the panel filter gets dirty... You want the shortest run to the AFM intake as possible.

The holes on the top picture simply allow a little more air to flow in around the headlight and the fender gap, without allowing too much air to be sucked in hot from around the engine (as what would happen if the top was cut out or that the holes were drilled all around the top).

xxxbadassfoxxxx

so you would recomend the way you did it right? and that costs next to nothing also correct? just drilling and cutting...and of course im gonna need a drop k & n also but i can get that later on

sunshine

iTrader: (3)

Thats exactly what Mark means His way, its one of the cheapest mods you can do.

xxxbadassfoxxxx

nice

xxxbadassfoxxxx

does anyone know how much more hp that would give me? or does it depend on the car and what not or is it not even noticable?

Icemark

Usually better cones with cold air boxes or drilled stock boxes with a K&N panel or RamAir brand foam panel will give you about a 2%-3% HP increase.

Most people won't notice a 2% HP increase. Usually most people don't notice a HP increases until you get into the double digits like 10% or more.

But it will sound better to an enthusiast driver.

xxxbadassfoxxxx

i think i'll notice it...i usually notice any little thing my car does differently. its a bad habit i guess, well actually its a good habit but thanks for the help

xxxbadassfoxxxx

one more question...on the inside of the box, what did you use to make the holes that are oval??

Icemark

an oval hole saw

No just jokeing (old car stereo installer joke on a trainee, " go get the 6x9 hole saw for those speakers".)

Actually they are two holes drilled in each end of the panel, then filed down in the middle. As I recall I used a 1 1/4" hole saw on most of those on the snorkle... but it has been a while since I had to do them.

xxxbadassfoxxxx

hahahaha yea i'd belive it if you told me that hahaha, but yea im going to attemp to do that the way you did it although my friend think the cone wau would look cooler but im broke so this is the way to go for me

Nimisys

why not cut away that snorkle section all togther?

nonameo

support?

xxxbadassfoxxxx

im lost...support for what?? and what snorkle section near what end...the engine or the bumper?