need help with TII that caught fire
Ok. Lets talk again about the gang of six. Remember how one is just aft of the other five??? From now on lets call them the gang of five since the one that hangs back a bit has been accounted for.
The most outboard one i.e. to the right when looking fwd, goes to the acv. It goes to the middle of the gang of three pipes that in turn goes toward the right side of the engine. If you blow smoke in the middle pipe of the gang of three, it should finally end up with a vac hose going to the pipe on the acv that sticks straight up.
Before connectiing the short hose from the far right pipe, blow smoke into the pipe and make sure the smoke exits from a pipe just inboard of the GREY SOLENOID. From there a short hose should connect it to the GREY SOLENOID.
The most outboard one i.e. to the right when looking fwd, goes to the acv. It goes to the middle of the gang of three pipes that in turn goes toward the right side of the engine. If you blow smoke in the middle pipe of the gang of three, it should finally end up with a vac hose going to the pipe on the acv that sticks straight up.
Before connectiing the short hose from the far right pipe, blow smoke into the pipe and make sure the smoke exits from a pipe just inboard of the GREY SOLENOID. From there a short hose should connect it to the GREY SOLENOID.
Ok. The third pipe counting from the right looking fwd. Its origin is from the BLUE SOLENOID. Blow smoke into that third pipe and make sure it exits from a pipe just outboard of the BLUE SOLENOID. It should feed the BLUE SOLENOID from the outboard pipe on the BLUE SOLENOID.
Now for the other end of the third pipe. It goes to the gang of three and I have it going to the fwd of the gang of three and ending up exiting the gang of three and going by vac hose to the very bottom of the acv.
Now for the other end of the third pipe. It goes to the gang of three and I have it going to the fwd of the gang of three and ending up exiting the gang of three and going by vac hose to the very bottom of the acv.
Now for the fourth pipe of the gang of five counting from the right looking fwd.
The fourth pipe originates at the BLUE SOLENOID. But, you say we just did the BLUE SOLENOID. And I say we did one of two hose coming from the BLUE SOLENOID. Blow smoke in the fourth and see it exit from a pipe just inboard and a touch aft of the BLUE SOLENOID. Make sure the short hose goes to the top of the BLUE SOLENOID.
Now for the other end of the fourth pipe. Run a vac hose from the fourth pipe to the aft pipe of the gang of three. Its final destination is to the acv and the nipple about in the middle of the acv and fwd on the acv. Its the feed air pressure from the airpump, to the blue solenoid and back from the blue solenoid to the bottom of the acv. One to go.
The fourth pipe originates at the BLUE SOLENOID. But, you say we just did the BLUE SOLENOID. And I say we did one of two hose coming from the BLUE SOLENOID. Blow smoke in the fourth and see it exit from a pipe just inboard and a touch aft of the BLUE SOLENOID. Make sure the short hose goes to the top of the BLUE SOLENOID.
Now for the other end of the fourth pipe. Run a vac hose from the fourth pipe to the aft pipe of the gang of three. Its final destination is to the acv and the nipple about in the middle of the acv and fwd on the acv. Its the feed air pressure from the airpump, to the blue solenoid and back from the blue solenoid to the bottom of the acv. One to go.
Now for the fifth of the gang of five. Blow smoke into the pipe. It feeds the YELLOW SOLENOID. Feeds the YELLOW SOLENOID from the bottom.
Connect the fifth with a short piece of vac hose to the pipe on the gang of three that leads to the EGR VALVE.
Connect the fifth with a short piece of vac hose to the pipe on the gang of three that leads to the EGR VALVE.
Oooops. The gang of three turns out to be the gang of four. To make things work consider when I talked about the gang of three, as the fwd three of the four pipes. The last one goes to the EGR valve.
Where I confused you, write back and I'll correct it. The manifold stays off til the morning.
Where I confused you, write back and I'll correct it. The manifold stays off til the morning.
Thanks for the help again.
You wouldn't happen to have a digital camera would you? If you could post a pic of your lines hooked up I think I would understand it more. If not I'll take a pic of my engine and post it then go from there.
Also tomorrow I'll print all your posts up and go out to my car and see if it makes more sense then. It's too dark now.
Thanks again, Ed
You wouldn't happen to have a digital camera would you? If you could post a pic of your lines hooked up I think I would understand it more. If not I'll take a pic of my engine and post it then go from there.
Also tomorrow I'll print all your posts up and go out to my car and see if it makes more sense then. It's too dark now.
Thanks again, Ed
No camera here. When you kept saying you saw 1.3 volts at the little white connector at the LEAD coil, I shoulda caught on to the fact that SOMETHING is dragging the voltage down. I just dismissed the 1.3 as inconsequential. I figured you wouda popped a fuse with somethig pulling the voltage down that much.
The 86 and 87 cars for the first half of 87, use low impedence fuel injectors. Those cars used something called a solenoid resistor and its located about a foot below the air filter housing. Its aluminium in color and about six inches long and a inch and a half wide. One connector on it. The last half of the 87 run of cars do not use this device.
I only see three devices downstream of the main relay that could pull the 12v down to 1.3 volts.. The LEAD coil assy, Trail coil assy, and the Solenoid resistor. If all three are unplugged, I would expect to see 12v on the little white connector at the Lead coil assy(black/yellow wire).
Tomorrow then.
The 86 and 87 cars for the first half of 87, use low impedence fuel injectors. Those cars used something called a solenoid resistor and its located about a foot below the air filter housing. Its aluminium in color and about six inches long and a inch and a half wide. One connector on it. The last half of the 87 run of cars do not use this device.
I only see three devices downstream of the main relay that could pull the 12v down to 1.3 volts.. The LEAD coil assy, Trail coil assy, and the Solenoid resistor. If all three are unplugged, I would expect to see 12v on the little white connector at the Lead coil assy(black/yellow wire).
Tomorrow then.
FORGET THE POST RIGHT ABOVE THIS ONE. IT WAS MEANT FOR ANOTHER PERSON.
I made a drawing showing looking down at the six pipes. I wrote in each circle where each one COMES FROM. They come from the solenoid rack on the left of the engine and each solenoid has a colored plug and dot on the solenoid.
So that tells you what each is going TO by knowing where they came from. The two BLUES and one GREY, go to the acv. The GREY going to the pipe that sticks straight up on the acv. One BLUE goes to the very bottom of the acv and the other BLUE to a nipple sticking straight out, located near the front area of the acv.
The ORANGE goes to the fpr on the secondary fuel rail. Its on the aft end of the secondary fuel rail.
The YELLOW goes to the EGR that is located on the rear of the intake manifold. Right side.
The GREEN goes to the switching actuator on the bottom of the turbo. There should be a long metal tube coming from the actuator for it to connect to.
Now about the gang of four. Three are to help you route the vacuum from the pipes labled BLUE(two) and GREY. The fourth one goes to the EGR. It should matter not which of the four you use as a route to the two BLUES, one GREY and one YELLOW.
I made a drawing showing looking down at the six pipes. I wrote in each circle where each one COMES FROM. They come from the solenoid rack on the left of the engine and each solenoid has a colored plug and dot on the solenoid.
So that tells you what each is going TO by knowing where they came from. The two BLUES and one GREY, go to the acv. The GREY going to the pipe that sticks straight up on the acv. One BLUE goes to the very bottom of the acv and the other BLUE to a nipple sticking straight out, located near the front area of the acv.
The ORANGE goes to the fpr on the secondary fuel rail. Its on the aft end of the secondary fuel rail.
The YELLOW goes to the EGR that is located on the rear of the intake manifold. Right side.
The GREEN goes to the switching actuator on the bottom of the turbo. There should be a long metal tube coming from the actuator for it to connect to.
Now about the gang of four. Three are to help you route the vacuum from the pipes labled BLUE(two) and GREY. The fourth one goes to the EGR. It should matter not which of the four you use as a route to the two BLUES, one GREY and one YELLOW.
Originally Posted by hypntyz7
Demonspeed.com. Email douglas and tell him that Kevin sent you.
Edit: whoops I just realized how old the thread is, haha. My point stands however.
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